Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[Groundloop]

@M@rcel,

I do not know what "noob-status" means but you are right. I will use the Iron as input (primary) and the ferrite
as output (secondary). I have made the coil so I can test both ways. If I find no difference then there is NO effect by
using cores this way.

Groundloop.

[M@rcel]

I'm afraid this won't work because the bemf flux from the center secondary has no other way to go than into the primary.

Where can I find large (min. 4") ferrite or better toroids?
mmm, metglass comes to mind (with a soft-iron center bar)

[gotoluc]

Steven, Luc:

Has Thane stated his position to you on whether these discoveries he has made are, in his opinion, the basis for a new source of energy, or simply findings which will allow for increased motor efficiencies?

I would think that with all the experiments he has performed, he would have an opinion on this--or at least he would be able to say: "So far I have increased motor efficiency by doing this," or "I have used this technique to get more energy out of my motor/generator combo than I put in."

Thanks,

Johnny

@johnnyl, Thane has seen your post and sent me the email below in response.

Luc

Dear Luc,

Send them these letters - especially Dr. Townsend and Kirtley's from MIT.
I have an opinion but I ought to stick with facts for now.

Thanks
Thane

[Mr.Entropy]

Groundloop,

You should be able to use the same material for the primary and secondary, as long as the permeability is pretty high and (very important) you have air gaps (or plastic separators) at the end of the primary rod.

I've been doing some modeling with vizimag, and it says that the effect works pretty well when the permeability is 2000 or so, and the air gaps are each about 3% of the rod length.

It also seems important to balance the loads on the secondaries (use a variable resistor on one) so that their fluxes will cancel.  This reduces the secondary inductance and allows you to draw current more easily.


Cheers,

Mr. Entropy

[gotoluc]

@Steven: Thanks for the info -- looking forward to learning more.

Am I understanding correctly that the goal of the torroidal transformer with a primary coil on a higher reluctance core coupled to two secondaries on a lower reluctance torroidal core is to show that the back EMFs of the secondaries cancel each other out and do not affect the primary?

J

@johnnyl, in response to your question above Thane has sent me this response.

Luc

Dear Luc,

Fluxes do NOT cancel each other out. They repel in air and bypass each other in metal. A piece of ferromagnetic material will handle any amount of flux going in any different number of directions up to the point of saturation.

The point is that the Secondary Coil 1?s Back EMF flux couples into Secondary Coil 2 and vice versa and NOT back into the primary.  The secondary coils can be an ?infinite? size (number of turns) having an ?infinite? induced voltage in them.

Picture a 1: 1,000 step up transformer and a primary which NEVER deviates from its NO LOAD operating state - then picture a 1: 1,000,000,000 step up transformer which employs the same primary only its SECONDARY turns have increased.

As long as the Back EMF flux paths for the secondaries MUTUALLY COUPLES one to each other and not down the primary coil leg ? an ?infinite? amount of power can be obtained with a magnetically isolated primary delivering a fixed magnetizing flux. 

The design also requires mutual secondary coupling to ?self regulate? the desired voltage across the load. This replaces the conventional transformer operation where secondary Back EMF flux couples back to the primary ? lowers the primary impedance ? causes the primary to draw more magnetizing current ? thus regulating the voltage across the load.

Our problem is not with proof of concept but with finding the ideal manufacturability ?recipe? to keep cost of production down and avoid waste. That is where computer modeling comes in for us right now. In the RED section above we have simply decided to increase our output by increasing the permeability of our core material (and multiply our output this way) rather than increasing our turns ratio.

You and Steve have an opportunity now to increase the primary efficiency of the samples I gave you and perhaps make the world's first 101% efficient transformer. I hope you succeed!

Cheers
Thane