Tri-Force Magnets - Finally shown to be OU?

[Tinker]

Omnibus

Where did he close the loop?

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Tinker

This is a conversation. When you claim something you have to prove it. Otherwise it will fade away unnoticed. It's not a matter of obligation. It's for your own benefit to clarify the issue. At the area where the loop has to be closed the rotor feels repulsion. So, what's your point?

Yes this is a conversation

Remember this

I offer no truths or data

When you claim something you have to prove it.

No I don't, I am sharing knowledge with the group for anyone that might find it useful. It is up to the individual to accept or reject my postings, I am not selling anything here.

Otherwise it will fade away unnoticed

You are correct I AGREE

But we have a saying here

Frankly my dear I don't give a DAMN

I will continue to post information as I find it, with luck I will have something built by the week end but my Redneck Workshop limits my ability's.

Be well
Tinker   

[Omnibus]

Omnibus

Where did he close the loop?

PAY ATTENTION

ATTRACTION OR REPULSHION

ITS JUST THAT SIMPLE

I HAVE NO OBLIGATION TO OFFER YOU PROFF

Tinker

This is a conversation. When you claim something you have to prove it. Otherwise it will fade away unnoticed. It's not a matter of obligation. It's for your own benefit to clarify the issue. At the area where the loop has to be closed the rotor feels repulsion. So, what's your point?

Yes this is a conversation

Remember this

I offer no truths or data

When you claim something you have to prove it.

No I don't, I am sharing knowledge with the group for anyone that might find it useful. It is up to the individual to accept or reject my postings, I am not selling anything here.

Otherwise it will fade away unnoticed

You are correct I AGREE

But we have a saying here

Frankly my dear I don't give a DAMN

I will continue to post information as I find it, with luck I will have something built by the week end but my Redneck Workshop limits my ability's.

Be well
Tinker   

OK, good luck. Will be waiting with interest to see what your idea is.

[sm0ky2]

the Force decreases with distance - from this force - over the width of the repulsion zone composes the magnetic potential energy of that repulsion zone. While this value is a finite number, and remains constant - within the particular gate structure - there is a DISTANCE at which the force is no longer prevelant - thus the magnetic potential approaches 0 at this point.

This is incorrect and proves again you don't understand the matter and are confusing force with energy as I suspected. As I told you before, it isn't true that because there is a distance at which the force is no longer prevalent the magnetic potential approaches 0 at this point.

of course it does. How are you measuring the potential energy of the field?
it is a function of force over time/distance.
if you measure the point-to-point potential energy of the field in 0.5mm increments you can clearly see that the potential energy of the magnetic field DOES in fact decrease with distance, outside the of field influence.  To a point approaching 0 - the effect on the roller is diminished to nothing long before it nears 0. 

Your analogy of the system in quesion is flawed on a fundamental level. I am making the apropriate distinction between energy and force here. Where there is no force between the magnetic fields, there is no potential energy between them.

You are asserting that there is, i am showing you that you are incorect. If you choose to continue this FALSE assertion - then you must now demonstrate this energy value, outside the field influence, and how it affects the force imparted on the roller by the gravitational constant.

When/If you can do this, then you may substantiate a valid argument, until then  - no ammount of denial, or diversion is going to validly dispute the scientific evidence i have laid out.

If you feel that i am incorrect in the handling of the equations, then please- demonstrate this.
Claiming that i am wrong here does not make it so. You must demonstrate this.

[Omnibus]

This is ridiculous, magnetic potential energy does not decrease with distance from the magnet despite the fact that the force does. You are confusing force with energy. Hate to say it but you need to refresh some basic physics,

[sm0ky2]

This is ridiculous, magnetic potential energy does not decrease with distance from the magnet despite the fact that the force does. You are confusing force with energy. Hate to say it but you need to refresh some basic physics,

Then show me the equation you use to calculate the Magnetic Potential Energy between two points along the distance of the field. - that is independent of Force.

I dont think you understand what energy is. You're error is a conceptual one - you are examing the total potential energy of the field, and trying to compare that to a finite distance outside of the field of influence. This problem cannot be handled in this manner.

again claiming that i am wrong does not make it so, i have already demonstrated this using commonly accepted physics. perhaps YOU should go refresh on your physics, then come back to this discussion prepared.