Tri-Force Magnets - Finally shown to be OU?

[futuristic]

Magnets are 6x6x6 mm.


I agree that starting energy is considerable, but magnet still swings higher with trigate rail than without it. And this is important.

[Omnibus]

Hi guys.

My latest experiment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCW6T7oKq2c

Quite successful I think.

Frenky

This experiment proves nothing of importance. The conditions with and without the stations are different and therefore, obviously, the behavior of the pendulum differs. That's trivial.

[Omnibus]

The important thing to prove is that when exiting the stations the piece can smoothly (won't need to fall from a height as in SMOT) start rolling down a slope leading to the entrance of the stations and that the gained height at the exit will provide enough energy to overcome the repulsion at the entrance. If that occurs we're there. That's the only hope with this device. Like I said, I'm not optimistic regarding its horizontal variant but I may be proven wrong.

[sm0ky2]

using 1-6 gates the repulsion zone is from about 1" to 3.5 inches. give or take, the stength of the gates, closeness, connecting bars, and several other misc. factors.

Also, remember that the strength of the repulsion field decreases exponentially with distance.
so there theres a "maximum" repulsion force at a certain distance, after you enter the weak end of the field traveling towards the gates.

once youu pass this max, the field diminishes to 0, before the attraction field starts.
they key is to have enough momentum to pass trough the max repulsion zone, through the dead-zone, and into the atraction zone.

you cannot do this more than 1-2 times from the repulsion at the gate exist alone.
we must accummulate energy during the track-distance, and then transfer that energy into te roller to give it enough power to re-enter the gate.

Normally i would agree with the critics on this point - that it is not possible.
However - with the Tri-Force, i notice that the attraction zone, amplifies the energy of the roller, regardless of the energy input or taken out of the system at the entrance/exit.
Hence - we get a gain.
I am not sure if this is actually to be considered "overunity".
Energy in , IS greater than Energy out -  however the experiment is consistent with the math.
the gate distance, is essentially a variable independent of the energy in/out.

example:
IF you had a Tri-Force array of x number of gates. that equated to a 1T field strength.
meaning 1 Tesla of repulsion force at both ends.

the roller would accumulate an additional 1/2 Tesla, during its travel, 1/4th of which is consumed in between the pairs of gates, such that the roller exits with approx. = 1.25T

This is a 25% gain over the energy input into the system, no doubt.  This is caused by the linear distortion of the magnetic field -  essentially we have the magnetic equivalent of two Bar Magnets facing opposite directions, but parallel to one another.

this creates a linear action on the roller - THROUGH the space between the magnets
With the Tri-Force, the forces poles in the end amplify this field - but it is essentially the same.

This principle was demonstrated by Howard Johnson as far back as 1938 in his "linear motor"
May he rest in peace. (Jan 2. 2008)
Here's a YouTube demonstration.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=o6F9I5OiSTE

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the advantage given by the Tri-Force is that is gives a "power boost" by reinforcing the gate with opposing, fields behind it.

and apparently we can change that angle by making "not-so triangles".

im working on a rotating thingy, but my "larger" balls are too big, and make a tiny circle (7")
with the roller.
and i cant' do much with that size.......

triyng to find a "medium sized" ball to do what Clanzer was doing....

perhaps the objective here is to have "sections" providing rotational force in arcs in the horizontal plane.

i think that may allow us to continue a rotational motion.

[tak22]

I've been following this idea and I keep thinking about how most all the testing is done in the 'flat' or 2D. This is probably because it's easiest to test this way and results are achieved. I don't have any parts to play with, but if I did, I'd start looking at decreasing the repulsion zone and increasing the acceleration zones by elevation changes of the gates and roller. Just something to think about.

tak