Tri-Force Magnets - Finally shown to be OU?

[gyulasun]

Hi All
I can't send the video I wanted to here so I am posting it in the file section of the Minato Wheel Group at Yahoo its called CrossingAirGap.wmv.
Take Care All
Graham

Managed to upload the video file.

Gyula

[Omnibus]

@gyulasun,

Thanks. Unforunately, that video adds nothing new. We already know that. @CLaNZeR and others have shown it in a number of videos for this particular setup. It can also be shown in numerous other ways. How does the piece get at the initial position, that's the question? Will the energy it exits be enough to overcome that initial barrier which the researcher overcomes (obviously tending to ignore it) to put it there?

[couldbe]

Stack a bunch of rollers in a chute above the entrance to the first gate. When the weight of them is enough it will overcome the repulsion and a roller will get through, roll along the array of gates, up a slope, and then roll down a ramp back to the chute. Its weight will add to the weight of the rollers and another roller will get through the repulsion. There you have it: OU.

[Omnibus]

Stack a bunch of rollers in a chute above the entrance to the first gate. When the weight of them is enough it will overcome the repulsion and a roller will get through, roll along the array of gates, up a slope, and then roll down a ramp back to the chute. Its weight will add to the weight of the rollers and another roller will get through the repulsion. There you have it: OU.

Correct. Something along this line. That was mentioned before but still remains to be demonstrated.

[sm0ky2]

@smOky2,

It has to be understood once an for all that one stationary field, no matter how elaborate its form, cannot create conditions for overunity. There must be another independent field, superimposed properly, to assist for that purpose. These are basic things that have to be understood first before we proceed. That lack of understanding is the underlying problem in every one of the devices we're discussing and trying to reproduce. I see what confusion @Harvey is getting himself into with his shuttle example and others such as @pcstru4 are in no better position trying to replace one confusion with another. That's not an unusual situation, however. Confusion regarding even such elementary concepts as energy, work and force is stunning and exists even at the highest levels of academia.

In order for these efforts to build self-sustaining devices to be fruitful not only clarity regarding the elementary notions has to be established but some more subtle issues have to sorted out.  It must be understood very well what is that mechanical construction that can provide, through proper superposition of two independent fields, conditions such that a full turn of the rotor (that is, traveling along a closed loop in this combination of fields) will result in non-zero energy gain. Producing such gain discontinuously is already well understood. How is this to be done continuously, what is that concrete construction that will result in continuous production of excess energy, that is to be understood. All these devices by alsetalokins, torbays and xpenzifs are just different renditions of the same principle for continuous production of excess energy which isn't understood at all at this point. The most one can do today is to hit accidentally onto something, as the likes of @alsetalokin have done, not being able either to explain what he's done or to reproduce it.

@ OMNI - there are very few people in this world that fully understand a magnetic field. And judging from some of the things you post, it is quite clear that you are not one of them. I cannot, therefore assume you know everything about the magnetic field, and how it functions. To claim that there is "no way" to provide overunity conditions from a single (or complex) magnetic field, without supreme knowledge of the force in question - is absolutely rediculous.
Scroll back a few pages and you will see a Pendulum Experiment. this, for all intensive purposes 'proves' your statement to be false. - That is assuming that the video is authentic, heights measured properly, ect. i haven't performed that test myself, but it seems easily replicated - if you think there will be different results.

This would co-incide with the ramp experiment, in which the roller exits at a higher altitude than it entered from.

There are thousands of magnetic anomolies, most of which have not been thoroughly explored. The Tri-Force was new to many of us, and im sure there will be more to come.
I found a new one myself just the other day!

personally, i think we should put the superimposed -field theory on hold for now, and work on adjusting the magnetic imbalance we are ALREADY achieving. - if we need a secondary field after we've exhausted all other options, i'd be willing to try. and if you have any suggestions as how to "apply" this secondary field - by all means post them up here so we may give it a go.

otherwise, its just "smot-spam" distracting us from our goal - which is ultimately a better understanding of the phenomena presented with Graham's Tri-Force.