Distance between postive and negative in cells

[Mr Green]

Hy HeairBear,

yes , i created a water flow in my cell but i didn't see any real changes in my production. Unfortunately  i didn't recorded the test but i will try to replicate it and put it on youtube. I think that bubbles sticking to the electrodes is just an optical illusion because a gas much more lighter than air can't stay underwater for long, altrough i could see some bubbles sticked to the electrodes but on the outer side (which doesn't take part in the electrolysis) .

No i didn't try to increase voltage more than 21 V (because i don't have a bigger power supply) and it was limited somehere around 3 - 4 A

Heathing problem ... i think that if lowering the voltage you will have less heat but amperage can go up.
if you can use a variable power supply why don't you take a single cell with just an andode and a cathode (with let's say 1mm spacing ) and record the production and the current consumption starting from the lowest volts you can deliver and increase at max and see if the production stop increasing and at what level. After you have some results you can do several tests ex:
1 ) increasing and decreasing the gap betwin plates
2 ) put in series or add some neutral plates betwin the poz and neg plates.
3 ) try keeping the best voltage where you have max production and increase the consumption by increasing the concentration of the electrolite.

Do not forget to share the results with us.
Good luck

Go Green !

@ TechArtGuy

thanks for  information and the same think , Do not forget to share the results with us.
the ultrasonic frequency is an amazing idea and it worths to be tried.

[techartguy]

Yes of course. I have some 304 (316 was to pricey for minimum length) stainless being shipped for a small test cell to start with, should arrive next week along with my water pump. Just have to see now...

[Mr Green]

it doesent really matter if it is  304 , 304L , 316 or 316L in the experimental stage.

you can check here which is the diffenece betwin these grades..

http://www.aalco.co.uk/literature/pdfs/Aalco_Materials.pdf

good luck

[HeairBear]

Oh, I see.... My bad.

My research in electrolysis has been in the works for some time now. I started here at overunity.com over a year ago but my endeavors go far beyond that. One thing is for certain, no matter how you design a cell or vary the voltage, electrolysis of any type of water will not be much more efficient than Faraday's findings. Gas production is related to current consumption. The more current consumed, the more heat and gas produced. The more voltage used, the more current consumed and the temperature rises much faster. It's a catch22. I went on to replicate Dave Lawton's setup with success. I did not get much more gas and current was really low. However after long runs the water did heat up. Currently I am researching the Avramenko plug for a possible tool to help keep current to a minimum without a huge voltage drop. Stiffler has a video on youtube that I am trying to replicate which I have been unable to so far. I'll hollar real loud when I crack the code. I promise.

If you think your gonna make a successful hydro-booster or water splitter or what ever you call it without learning some electronics, physics, chemistry, history, and especially how an automobile works, you wont get to far. We have tried that already... Even though the solution may be super simple, it's not simple until you have the knowledge and knowing you have it.

Good luck guys.

[techartguy]

Yes, It's becoming real evident that there is going to be alot of learning and broadening of skill sets for a project like this. I'll have to see how introducing a flow of water between the tubes in my own cell trials sometime next week or so affects it. If anything I'll put the return line through a small computer radiator w/fan to dissipate heat out of the cell if it presents an issue to the plastic housing's structural integrity. Thanks for the vote of confidence