Overunity Device using Magnets in the 1920's ?

[gyulasun]

Yes, very nice setup! 

Maybe the magnets are to be placed onto the rotor and then the coils need no brushes for the pulse connections?

Gyula

[hansvonlieven]

I had thought about this Gyula,

I am not trying it as a first off though because I don't know how the magnetic field is altered if the pole shoes are curved, as they must if I want to maintain close proximity between the gap and the electromagnet. Something to think about later.

Hans

[nightlife]

hansvonlieven, based on the last picture, I would think the magnets and coils should be switched. I also would have to think that the coils polarities need to be switched at precise times to utilize the full potential. I also would think that the magnets placements need to be off set requiring a certain timing sequence to help eliminate as much of the drag as possible.

Based on the last picture, it shows the coils cores to be blue and I am assuming that the blue is the polarity and based on your magnets south polarity being blue, the core must be a south polarity when power is added. If that is the case and based on the time of the power being pulsed, I see that as a drag. Please also note that this concept is not any more efficient than a common pulse motor.

Fig 4 is your best bet as far as designs you have posted. The last needs some major changes made before you should consider it.

Please note that this is my ignorant opinion but it is worth thinking about IMO.

[Mr.Entropy]

Hi Hans,

If you're sure that moving the coil with the reed doesn't fundamentally change the nature of the device, then wouldn't you rather put the magnets on the rotor and the coils on the outside, so you don't have to use brushes?

Cheers,

Mr. Entropy

(OOPS! I see this has been suggested already)

[tak22]

OK, here's my crude drawing of a push/pull version using either ring magnets (if horseshoes not required) or paired horseshoes. Many pairs can be used in a circle to get as much force as possible, all joined to a center double acting connecting rod.

I have no idea how effective linear generation is compared to rotary, but it does greatly simplify the controls.

Drawing includes depiction of both ring mags or horseshoe, centre input coils, paired output guides, coils, and mags.

Please excuse the drawing, I have no appropriate software loaded right now.

tak