Simple and slow - Seans gravity wheel

[FreeEnergy]

I've tryed a serie of smaller balls joined by ropes... like a chain of small balls... it works but the program seems to be extremally slow.

Now, about the air resistance... well... if we find a working model, we can construct a vaccum plexiglass chamber isn't it?

could you post the wm2d file please? thanks

[Scorpile]

Sure!  here:  http://pabo.com.pa/joe/chain.wm2d

[hartiberlin]

Sure!  here:  http://pabo.com.pa/joe/chain.wm2d

Many thanks Scorpile,
that was, what I was looking for.
Does that also somehow work without all the small balls ?
Just the rope connected at one end at the big disc and
at the other end of the rope another weight ?

Probably not, right ?

Many thanks again.

Regards, Stefan.

[SeanTheLight]

The force used to stretch the cloth would normally cancel out, but stretching the cloth over the fulcrum during "peak strength" and then waiting a number of degrees of rotation before releasing that pent up energy, splits the cloth into 2 springs effectively, seperated at the fulcrum. Top weight continues to act as we imagine a simple weight to do, but bottom cloth is a storage spring, its pull force is being held tightly between its mounting position, and the fulcrum. This energy will not be released until top cloth reaches or passes equilibrium relative to the weight. Once the cloth overcomes friction at the fulcrum, it returns to the behavior of a simple spring, and pulls with full force (top + bottom cloth) on the weight, and at the angle it is connected, that pulling force snaps the weight back into position, on its way back to its starting length.

You will notice the wheel is rotating extremely slowly.....centrifugal force is minimal. This is not a generator design, just a proof of concept.

One side of the weight must be held tight at "full extension" by a rope, the other side of the weight must be held by an elastic string. When constructed properly, it should look like a ninja throwing star, or a snowflake.

Scorpile, try this please. Hinge the weights at center instead of off to one side. Remove the rope on the elastic side. Change the static length of the elastic string until tension is present in the system at "starting" position. Adjust mass of weights, and elasticity of string, until perpetual motion is achieved.   


my design, and a recreation of dr tseungs suggested experiment, both in working model, both caused simulation errors when "I Believe" the effect that is causing "overunity" is seen as an error by WM.


http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s152/murdock2id/workingmodelunhappy.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s152/murdock2id/workingmodelunhappy2.jpg

[Scorpile]

Does that also somehow work without all the small balls ?
Just the rope connected at one end at the big disc and
at the other end of the rope another weight ?

Probably not, right ?

Right.  I've found in the manual and all the springs, ropes, rods, etc, do not collide, nor have mass or volume.