Thank GOD!

[WilbyInebriated]

uhh attacks? where do you see one of those?

he made some claims, i asked for some specifics and logic to support them.
he responded with a list of specifics, still waiting on the logic...

i see no attacks, if you do could you please be more specific?

[Feynman]

I wasn't trying to blame anyone either way; of course you have a right to question someone's claim.  I do not agree with z.monkey's claim about Islam either.   However, I just mean we've got more important things to do than argue over stuff like this, that's all.  We are running out of time.

[Bulbz]

You obviously missed the part where I said I don't believe in church, or religion.

It is man that made a total mess of this world.

What is coming will make the Old Testament look like a happy fun time.

GOD is the ONLY way, and I KNOW this because my Father,
He who art in heaven, told me...

I didn't read this somewhere are regurgitate it on this forum...

GOD loves you too, brother...

True... But you got one thing slightly wrong... It's not exactly Man that made a total mess of this world, it is mainly because the governments have complete control over whatever we are allowed to do.

To put things into perspective... I'm not sure how the transport system works in other countries... But I will try to get one thing straight.

Over here we have a document that is given to us when we own a car, motorbike, van, etc. Now... Somewhere on this document we have a section that indicates what type of fuel the vehicle runs on. Also, once a year we have to have our cars fully tested (mechanically, and exhaust emmissions), over here this is called the MOT-Test.

Now... If I was by some chance lucky enough to find a solution to apply (Free-Energy Technology) to my motor car, I could not do so, because... 1) I would have to send back the V5 document to the DVLA, to tell them I have an alternative fuel source running my vehicle (but it is not a valid fuel source in their terms)... 2) I could not keep hush-hush about it, because they take note of the fuel type when a vehicle is submitted for the MOT-Test.

So there you go, the government controll what we can and cannot run our vehicles on, so it it the government who is to blame for the climate change (if any).

[WilbyInebriated]

i got nothing but time

and i do agree with you about the focus, which is partially why i created an account to reply to this thread. if i were to create a thread saying that we all need to pray to Zeus to give us the secret to his lightning bolts (the original spark-gap) and solve some problems for us what do you think people would have thought? if you think god is gonna give you free energy, great! share it with all your friends who believe in "god", putting it in a forum like this to everyone well your gonna get some chuckles. thats just how it is. i think some of z. monkeys posts were pretty good and well thought out, except the ones where he is proselytizing.

waiting for divine intervention to bring us a more efficient and sustainable energy system is a long wait for a train that ain't coming.

[Koen1]

I wasn't trying to blame anyone either way; of course you have a right to question someone's claim.  I do not agree with z.monkey's claim about Islam either.   However, I just mean we've got more important things to do than argue over stuff like this, that's all.  We are running out of time.

Ah, yes, I agree with that!
There are much more important things to do with our time, our energy, and our minds
than to sit around and bicker about who believes in what metaphysical paradigm and for what reasons,
and why one would or would not be better than another.
That said, I also completely agree with WilbyInebriated that most of the things on that list z.monkey posted
are in fact man-mande problems and can also be solved by man-made solutions, and we really don't need
a metaphysical entity to do that for us.
In fact, one of the reasons so many of those problems exist is that so many people trust that there is
some metaphysical "shepherd" entity that will protect us against ourselves, I think. If people put as
much energy into thinking rationally about problems in societey and the world at large and acting to
solve them as they put into the large scale religious practises of our world, then a lot less problems
would exist.