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Overunity Machines Forum



Another Smot Idea w/Pic

Started by aegis, March 15, 2008, 02:15:57 PM

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ramset

Aeg   Leggo's and   velocity   Inertia    your Idea is there    thanx for the vid  is walmart still open?  Chet
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gyulasun

Quote from: aegis on March 15, 2008, 02:15:57 PM

The ball then falls onto the ramp below and gravity brings it down until it takes a right turn near the bottom of the ramp where the downsloping and upsloping ramps meet. It takes a right turn and then goes back up the ramp thus completing the loop, and the process starts all over again.


Hello Aegis,

So far ok.  Two other problems are still to be solved:
-You have to insure the ball should not lose too much kinetic energy when after coming down the ramp it takes a right (or a left) turn, preparing for a reenter,
-You surely are aware of a repel spot in front of the enter point into the smot (just a few cm distance in front of the first smot magnets) so the ball should either have enough kinetic energy left after taking the turn to defeat the repel force or the ball can take a route after the turn to arrive at in between the repel spot and the enter point of the smot.

Good thinking by the way.  Sorry if these two 'problems'  may be not problems for you

Gyula


ramset

The ball could be sped up on the return trip  just like leggoman sent it up the slope  CHET
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mscoffman

Hi all;

In Clanzers inclined ramp video we see an axle with weight W being pulled up an incline by
an interaction with a magnetic field. I hate to say this folks, but; a) that represents work
being done by a magnet, b) the axle remains under control of a local magnetic field as it
is transfered between two gates. The Tri-Force field lattice does the smoothing. An arbitrary
number of gates can apparently raise the axle to any higher level. The ramp-incline then
partions the work done by the magnetic field into two parts the momentum force of the axle
moving forward+rotating (arbitrated by metal sphere friction on the drive surface) + the gravitational
potential energy of the weight W increasing by increasing height of the axle by of about .8cm per
every Tri-force gate. What added the energy to the axle? A magnet pulling it's weight up the ramp.
What happens next? The axle remains under control of the Tri-force magnetic field, ready for a
repeat performance in the next Tri-Force gate.

Now; A Magnetic force did this, and a Mag. force is an acceleration. So without some force holding
it back the axle should accelerate to any arbitrarily high speed. And since the axle seems to reach a
"top speed", a non-linear force must be holding it back. One non-linear force is air resistance with
a terminal velocity of 250MPH. So that is not it. It *must* be Lenz Law eddy current braking which
converts excess energy into heat, that is holding the axle back. Not some saturation by initial energy.
Because the forward momentum is saturated, the y-axis velocity represents an almost ideally efficient
mechanism for potential energy storage. (By the way - if you look carefully, you will see that the
Wheel machines has none of these things!, so it is not suprising that the wheel machine rotor does
not accelerate. The wheel rotor makes it easy to pick off excess energy but hard to change the mass
center of gravity of whirling parts. A spinning magnetic dipole also has RF radio frequency energy
losses which the wheel has and the ramp does not) 

What I propose is that the Tri-force lattice array acts like a refrigerator absorbing latent heat from
all of it's parts in the environments and concentrates that heat into the axle's metal parts, and
suppling the energy to move it.

An interesting experiment then would involve sending maybe ten axles up a 30 gate Tri-Force ramp and
capturing all ten in a cup filled with some water and seeing if there is any small temperature rise in the
water in the cup after a brief period.

If there is excess heat it would be possible to use a "drinking bird toy" arrangement which contains
a freon boiler...But *please* no water. The custom designed mechanism would be able to capture an
axle absorb the heat out of it and use that heat to arm itself so that the next axle that comes along would
cause the first to flip up to a drive surface mounted above the magnetic field array which would pull the axle
down the slope at above 1xG with eddy current braking powered full on. The neat thing about this is the
axle would go from the bottom ramp to the top ramp at very high speed, Creating a very short undesirable
out-of-magnetic-field control pop-up time. The gravitational potential energy would not be used, except to
create a clearance for the rotating mechanism.

The only way I can see that this would not work is if magnetic forces refrigerates the axle too. I would
believe that too much of the machine's energy is concentrated in the axle for it not to be heated to
some small extent. Since moving the weight up the incline represents work, I would tend to experiment
with that configuration then optimize it. Those Wheel machines have additional RF losses due to spinning
magnetic dipoles in space and those RF losses are fractionally proportionate to the eddy current losses seen
by the the wheel. The inclined ramps are showing what one wants to see, acceleration limited by a non-linear
force and efficient potential energy storage. Do not forget that G the force of gravity on the planet earth is
arbitrary among all the G values in the universe, not some absolute value designed to purposely defeat the
operation of a magnetic machine design (that we know of).

So if someone could measure a temperature rise in the axles then the operation of this machine could pretty
much be assured. On the other hand, if there is not temperature rise, one would have to find some other
way to use the gravitational potential energy of the raised weight to switch tracks.

Sorry, for the length of this post and I now would be glad to answer any questions about it.

MarkSCoffman

b0rg13

check this out , http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_L3zzVBn774&feature=user .

( there is prolly some one in the tunnel giving it a push ?)  ;D j/k
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