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Complete information on working SM style device.

Started by spherics, March 17, 2008, 12:03:53 AM

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    The Earth as well as the Sun must just be inertial fields capturing potential energy in their fields from the aetheric black energy waves.  Little bubbles in a sea of potential energy going every which way.  This raises the possiblity of there being all sorts of dark matter that is capturing the aetheric energy.  Dark suns and planets and maybe dark beings of intelligence.  They just don't work the aether the same way our sun does.
    The matter at hand about the NMR of iron is a tricky one.  If iron changes it's atomic structure in response to a magnetic field, would it not be resonant at all frequencys that produce a magnetic field.  Perhaps we should be looking for the time it takes for iron to respond to Earths magnetic flux density.  If the Earth's flux changes then this would be a result of Earth's response to aetheric wave inertia.
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Quote from: aleks on March 30, 2008, 04:31:07 AM
Quote from: eldarion on March 29, 2008, 08:18:09 PM
I have a piezo delay line from an old color TV--the delay is 63 microseconds.  I might want to try that instead of the iron coil...
This is a much more realistical thing. Piezo delay should be a broad-band delayer for the most part. Iron wire just delays the highest frequencies only (but for 3.5MHz should work, of course), maybe working as an all-pass filter.

@ aleks
You are somewhat nullifying what you have said a couple of pages back.
There is no problem to measure and/or use a delay using a time period. However, when talking about emf speed propagation, the delay measured in time periods with little coils hardly has any meaning. In this aleks you were correct (see your own answer). Don?t just think in pure electronics terms.
A simple point is missed. It is not a delay measured in mks, ms or any other time period. I guess it was just an expression for better understanding from shpeics. If you can measure a delay, it is probably already too late. We are talking about a delay measured in ?. Take a guess.

One rides his bicycle behind another. Both perform the same amount of work, the same weight per unit of distance per unit of time. However, the second one needs significantly less energy spent for it. At electrons or emf propagation speed level, the thing might be much more interesting than just a simple bicycle example.

Kames.

aleks

Quote from: kames on March 30, 2008, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: aleks on March 30, 2008, 04:31:07 AM
Quote from: eldarion on March 29, 2008, 08:18:09 PM
I have a piezo delay line from an old color TV--the delay is 63 microseconds.  I might want to try that instead of the iron coil...
This is a much more realistical thing. Piezo delay should be a broad-band delayer for the most part. Iron wire just delays the highest frequencies only (but for 3.5MHz should work, of course), maybe working as an all-pass filter.

@ aleks
You are somewhat nullifying what you have said a couple of pages back.
There is no problem to measure and/or use a delay using a time period. However, when talking about emf speed propagation, the delay measured in time periods with little coils hardly has any meaning. In this aleks you were correct (see your own answer). Don?t just think in pure electronics terms.
A simple point is missed. It is not a delay measured in mks, ms or any other time period. I guess it was just an expression for better understanding from shpeics. If you can measure a delay, it is probably already too late. We are talking about a delay measured in ?. Take a guess.

One rides his bicycle behind another. Both perform the same amount of work, the same weight per unit of distance per unit of time. However, the second one needs significantly less energy spent for it. At electrons or emf propagation speed level, the thing might be much more interesting than just a simple bicycle example.

Kames.


Well, yes, I'm somewhat nullifying what I have said (not much, though, since piezo effect should have much longer delays - hence I've used 'much more realistical' word combination).

These 'delay coils' (including piezo effect based one) are probably working just like low-pass filters inducing some group delay well below the cutoff point. I'm not fighting against the fact of delay, but with the word "delay". It should have been written as "phase shift" at certain frequencies.

By the way, if we consider piezo effect and its acoustic nature (say if it is an air-based piezo effect), 63microseconds equals to 21millimeter space which is pretty OK to consider a broadband delay - not what happens inside the wire. I mean, you can have a broad-band 63musec delay with piezo effect just at the distance of 21millimeter space. This is totally real. Attaining broad-band delay with wire is questionable, and should be considered a phase shift instead.

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I !00% agree with your belief this the real deal, there are so many things that Spherics posts explain about the original TPU and its method of operation, there are many small details which would be extremely difficult to build into a credible story. The biggest thing for me on this is my intuition is screaming that it 'feels' right.

Those who do not agree should sit back and wait... if it does not work then you can say 'told you so' and everything will move on, but I don't think that going to happen. Tesla was a builder and he built, if he had just theorised or followed convention he would not have achieved anything. We know all the current theorys are incorrect, and that is demonstrated adequately by 10 years of replication effort, where much has been learnt but the goal has not been reached. Theories are convenient abstractions, but abstractions are not things, and cannot capture every detail because they are vast simplifications. As the old Zen saying goes 'A finger pointing at the Moon is not the Moon'.

Lets not kill of this effort with though experiments, Tesla would not have. An Einstein was much a fan or any theory including his own.

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Quote from: acerzw on March 30, 2008, 03:26:17 PM
Lets not kill of this effort with though experiments, Tesla would not have. An Einstein was much a fan or any theory including his own.
The only thing I'd like to justify is the NMR of iron and how much "ambient" it is. Well, normal magnetic field measurements give low values which should equate to measurements of low-passed signal. Such approach cannot detect energy at higher frequencies. OK, let's pretend Earth produces a lot of magnetic field oscillations at NMR frequency of iron (due to its iron core). What kind of "directionality" these oscillations have? In my opinion NMR oscillation should be ambient since atoms all "resonate" being at different and changing positions within the atomic lattice. If this is the case then a "non-linear" magnetic flux tapper (mentioned in some post on this forum) would be possible as the ambient resonance is not a DC field. So, let's hope this is the real source of energy. I would be pretty unhappy if my hypothesis of nuclear disintegration happening in TPU proves to be correct (though, the Hutchinson effect should be it I think, as it causes anti-gravity field, but this effect is probably unrelated to SM's TPU at all).

Note that by "ambient" I mean a DC field with an oscillating intensity in all points of space this field occupies. So, the simplest "test deck" would be creating an oscillating DC magnetic field and trying to tap energy out of it. And so, if you succeed at tapping enough energy with some resonator device, you'll be able to tap Earth's magnetic energy if tuned to the iron's NMR frequency. Well, these are just speculations.