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Complete information on working SM style device.

Started by spherics, March 17, 2008, 12:03:53 AM

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kames

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...Attaining broad-band delay with wire is questionable, and should be considered a phase shift instead.

@aleks

Why not to go even a simpler way? Why not to measure the delay in distance between two pulses propagation? Measuring it as a phase shift might be correct as long as we don?t talk about impulses or really short pulses. Phase shift might not be applicable in this case. What spherics has described was that SM was playing with audio signal and delay lines. But the audio signal is a set of a lot of different signals, including pulses and impulses. When there are a lot of them a delay in ms or mks might show occasional interaction reflected in the spectrum change. If one wants to play with a single pulse or impulse, such a long delay won?t show anything. I have played with delays in a range of ms and mks before and I had zero results. I used a single pulse or impulse, ie, very long duty cycle.

Kames.



b0rg13

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on March 30, 2008, 11:04:46 AM
A couple of things that everyone should know.

SM stated, in his email response to the Bob Boyce .PDF, that it took them years to understand that they could not understand WHY it worked!  So once again, Spherics is correct.

SM stated, "That it would take a hundred years before anyone found the correct frequency."  And it would have had not Spherics given it to us.

Some of you fail to realize the momentous occasion this is.  I am stunned.  Being a skeptic is fine, but open your mind.  Let's build both Spherics version 2008 TPU and Spherics explanation for the Early TPU. 

Over the many months, some have made preconception of how the TPU works, and this, for you does not fit.  I am sorry.  Our versions were always missing the two most important factors, and I have shouted it from the rooftops:  The CORRECT frequency(s) and the RMF or rotating magnetic field. 

Many of us wanted the solution to be something that fit into our preconseption.  Spherics has seemingly improved on the original design and took time to understand "WHY" it works, so that such said improvement could be made. 

Secret Frequency:  NMR of FE and its harmonics

SM's Early TPU:
A minimal delay in a split signal, resulting in a huge magnetic field.  I would also pulse this with a "harmonic" of the NMR of FE.  I can picture in my mind why the NMR of FE would work, but I can not yet put it into understandable words.

IMHO:  This is the real deal and the long sought after answer.

Did SM's later TPU's wire up different?  I am sure.  They learned to use the static magnetic dc bias on the control wires (Kick coils) and more collectors, etc.

Lastly, Spherics choice of "Spherics" for a user name ought to tell you something, if nothing else.  SM's company name, that we did not know until the DAY AFTER Spherics first post.  Come on guys, let's finally make something that works. 

Cheers all,

Bruce


GREAT! so its finally here and working for a change?....or at least on paper?. :o
if you want to get out of the rat race,you have to let go of the cheese.

aleks

Quote from: kames on March 30, 2008, 04:32:38 PM
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...Attaining broad-band delay with wire is questionable, and should be considered a phase shift instead.

@aleks

Why not to go even a simpler way? Why not to measure the delay in distance between two pulses propagation?
You'll need kilometers of wire to have a measurable broad-band (group) delay in wire. 1kHz RF wave is 300 km long. If you want to cause a cancellation with two-way approach you'll need 150km of wire.

eldarion

I would like to correct a previous posting of mine--Omnispace has gently reminded me that only the real portion of the wattage mentioned must be dissipated as heat.  So if the circuit can recover the back-EMF spike from the coil, the power dissipation will be much less.

I wish Spherics had provided even rough dimensions for the coils in his design--I will be using 1.25" long by 15/16" inside diameter air-core coils with around 275 turns of 24ga. wire on them (this just happens to be the exact dimensions of the coils that come from RadioShack!  ;)  I've gotten lazy...)

The main concern I have about the information presented here is that the NMR frequency of iron is not constant!  It will vary with external magnetic field strength.  I may have an idea, however, that would also explain the shutdown when flipped over on SM's device:

QuoteEarth's field NMR
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR) in the geomagnetic field is conventionally referred to as Earth's field NMR (EFNMR). Note that the same acronym is used for electric field NMR.

EFNMR is a special case of low field NMR.

When placed in a constant magnetic field and stimulated (perturbed) by a pulsed or alternating magnetic field, NMR active nuclei (such as 1H or 13C) resonate at frequencies characteristic of the isotope. The resonant frequencies and signal strengths are proportional to the strength of the applied magnetic field. Thus in the 21 tesla magnetic field that may be found in high resolution laborotory NMR spectrometers, protons resonate at 900 MHz. However in the Earth's magnetic field the same nuclei resonate at audio frequencies of around 2 kHz, generating very weak signals.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_field_NMR

Of special interest is that the NMR frequencies are now shifted down into the kilohertz audio range!  The H bias coil may very well be required simply to shift the NMR frequencies higher for more power extraction or less required coil mass.

Eldarion
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aleks

Quote from: eldarion on March 30, 2008, 05:08:57 PM
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_field_NMR
Of special interest is that the NMR frequencies are now shifted down into the kilohertz audio range!
They should have performed this test with Fe. Unfortunately NMR measurement they did with H and C does not work with Fe. :) This is unrelated to SM TPU research.