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Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !

Started by zapnic, March 17, 2008, 04:28:58 AM

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@Bruce_TPU

I don't know about all these frequencies. Usually a theory should be consistent throughout all the TPU builds and I just can't see all this happening in the ftpu, otpu, stpu and 6tpu(s) (@BEP yes there are more then one) lol. But what do I know.

350 volts is about the level of a vacuum tube output.

@all

@Bruce_TPU just said "ALL POWER SOURCES from Batteries only."

JUST LEARNED THIS THE HARD WAY.

I just blew my HP 214B Pulse Generator. Found a resistor toasted, ran out to get one 237k but found only a 240k, changed it, but still no go. That is about the limit of my EE acumen to fix it. Shit. I had just finished preparing my next TPU test with just a first ring and outer coil and toroid. Connected it to the pulse generator and boom. It blew. It was preset at around 2mhz when I put it on and boom.

If anyone knows anything about these pulse generators, the resistor is R508 (237k) and you can see it on pages 108 and 112 of my manual located here.
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Equipment%20Manuals/214B%20HP%20Pulse%20Generator/00214-90012.pdf

I don't know if this is just coincidental or not. Man I have pulsed so many wicked things and it never blew or gave me any trouble. Just connected to this and it blew in half a second.

Well I guess I am back to using a Mosfet again and my frequency generator again. Noooooooooooooooo. Hmmmmmm. Wonder if it will blow also or maybe I should just use a battery and magnet quenched reed switch to start really small. I wanted to do these tests before I posted my theory of TPU operation. It is so simple. Maybe I should not wait and just put it out there. The basic simple premise is sound and I have at least confirmed the basic requirement on the bench. The theory may not be 100% but I am sure it will help you guys cross the barrier with your great EE know how.

When I simply pulse it manually on 4.5 vdc (power supply) I can feel the copper ring react even though it is wound over with a control coil (or whatever). Very surprised I must say. Actually not really surprised given the fact that this is expected under the circumstances.

Mike_M

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on August 29, 2009, 09:25:00 AM

The three frequency's MUST BE mixed in a TUBE AMP or MIXER of some sort, and then INPUT into the collectors...

Voltage required will most certainly be 350 or higher.

@Bruce_TPU,
this somewhat differs from what Steven said in his letters. He writes about his first device made from three tube generators coupled to tube amplifiers (obviously, three also). This makes me think that mixing wasn't done in those amps. Or maybe this is not so important?

SM also mentions that amps are 2-staged with 6AS7G output. Wide bandwidth, low noise. All this points to a pure class A single-ended OTL. It means that 350V is beyond this tube's limit in most cases.

Anyway, thanks for your insight about those carrier freqs. Sounds like you're pretty sure about that. It would be very nice to see the math...

BEP

Quote from: kmarinas86 on August 29, 2009, 10:56:46 AM

See timeline on verification of ferrotorodicity: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=Hek&tbo=1&tbs=tl%3A1&q=ferrotoroidicity&aq=f&oq=&aqi=


Flipping magnetic polarity with circular polarized laser light.....
Creation of laser light with circular polarized magnetic fields....

One of my favorite statements:

"Are there maybe even more forms of ferroic order? Another glance shows that ferroelectricity, ferromagnetism, and ferrotoroidicity all possess vector-like order parameters: The electric polarization, the magnetization, and the toroidization expressed by the ï"i ri ï,´ Si. However, ferroelasticity is characterized by strain which is a second-rank tensor. So maybe there is another ferroic order with a vector-like order parameter conserving space-inversion and time-reversal symmetries? An electrotoroidal state would do the job. It is obtained by replacing the spins of the ferrotoroidic order by electric dipoles. However, except in geometrically confined systems such electric vortices have not yet been observed…"

Except aound a current carrying conductor  :P

Jeez.... Took them long enough to think of it. I suppose somebody will have a Nobel Prize when they see the order of electrotoroidal is the way current really flows in a wire?

Wait 'till they have another cup of java and realize their are equivilant orders for dia and para. Then the big one! Their are anti's for each  :o


Bruce_TPU

Quote from: Mike_M on August 29, 2009, 06:58:22 PM
@Bruce_TPU,
this somewhat differs from what Steven said in his letters. He writes about his first device made from three tube generators coupled to tube amplifiers (obviously, three also). This makes me think that mixing wasn't done in those amps. Or maybe this is not so important?

SM also mentions that amps are 2-staged with 6AS7G output. Wide bandwidth, low noise. All this points to a pure class A single-ended OTL. It means that 350V is beyond this tube's limit in most cases.

Anyway, thanks for your insight about those carrier freqs. Sounds like you're pretty sure about that. It would be very nice to see the math...

Please give the exact quote and source of this.  None of that is in the compiled letters of SM and in the .PDF released from Mannix.
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

sparks

   Whats kinda different about steel wire is that your eddy currents are radial  unless you laminate the wire.  :D   The wire if it is rusty also has a good dielectric conductor there.  Only thing unusual I ever observed was using steel rebar wire coil driven with 30,000 vdcpulsed.  The ends of the coil looked like a plasma cutter and there was an ion wind from about 2'out which was dropping the temp in the field.  Little bit of light but not much.  Cold juice I'd say.
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