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Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator

Started by tak22, March 22, 2008, 05:59:16 PM

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bblindman

Quote from: wattsup on September 20, 2008, 09:36:23 AM
@SD

Thanks for this diagram. I wanted to put a better translation as follows;

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To shake atoms so they render the energy they contain, you must send via a high frequency oscillator (in the order of 173 kHz) a wave that is in resonance with the vibration of the copper electrodes ie electrons. This is via an oscillating magnetic field thanks to the coil winding that is connected to the oscillator and that covers the copper. One part of the feed current is used to polarize the metal that restitutes (gives back) up to 30 times the energy consumed by the oscillator.
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So in general, the oscillator is pulsing current onto the copper rod and there is another wire from the positive of the battery that goes through a diode and a resistor so only a small portion of the battery power is used to ensure the copper rod s polarized in a fixed manner to initiate a steady positive/negative output off the copper rod. If copper was magnetic, you could have used a magnet to do the same polarization, but since it is not, a small current on one side will do the same thing.

Interesting indeed.

Thanks again.

wattsup

Hello all,
I am new here, congrats all for the great site!
Let's say i'm interested in the device of Meyer, that being main reason for which i signed up.
I think "electrodes" is just a misspell for "electrons", not a big deal!
In the French paper the author says the coil ENGULFS the copper core, not only "over" it. I thought that might be of interest.
All NMR devices use an external strong (so far 20T biggest i heard of) magnetic field to "polarize" the magnetic spins of the atoms, Meyer's device presented in the French paper was based on Copper which is nonmagnetic, a bit diamagnetic like superconductors, i might add! AC magnetic field WILL REPEL COPPER AND ALUMINIUM, very interesting too! The repelling force is 4x greater than the attraction force. Polarization obtained by connecting the + of the source through a diode on the copper core, i think that is really very smart. Also Meyer didn't make any direct reference to copper rod in his patent which is about iron core transmutation from FE56-FE54. Maybe anyone around here can think of what transmutation copper is having in that experiment from the French paper. My bet would be 65Cu-63Cu, both stable, both same nuclear spin. Problem is 65Cu is 30%, not so easy to find. It's just an opinion, but i wouldn't mess with 63Cu to 61Cu!

bblindman

Quote from: saintsnick on January 13, 2009, 09:47:02 AM
The copper device and the Iron Isotope device work on different principals it seems.  The copper device vibrates the copper atoms eiether atomically (atomic resonance) or the rod (mechanical resonance).  Neither of these methods is used in the Iron Isotope. 

The Iron Isotope device uses atomic resonance and a Very Strong magnetic field (.5 tesla strength) to create Atomic Decay of the iron isotope, to Change it from isotope 56 to 54 or something like that. Look up Iron isotope on Wikipedia. The iron Isotope device becomes Nuclear Particle radioactive!!! Dangerous! Don't built it without a lead shield or something of that nature!

-saintsnick
Both use NMR, obvious the Copper bar is "magnetized" by polarsiation.  The iron bar can be magnetized by a Ne permanent magnet (for which 1.5 Tesla is comon, so 0.5 even lower). About "nuclear particle radioactive" i am not sure so i checked, that's what i found out:
it seems Fe54 is NATURALLY occuring under 6%, it is radioactive BUT considered STABLE (with 300x10 pwr20 halflife) here is what i found on American Elements (one can even buy it online from them!!!):
Iron 54 Metal (Iron-54) is a stable (non-radioactive because of long halflife) isotope of Iron. See below table for ENSDF Citation and Half Life. It is both naturally occurring and  produced by fission. Iron 54 Metal is one of over 250 stable Metallic isotopes produced by American Elements for biological and biomedical labeling, as target materials and other applications. Iron Metal 54 additionally has special application in the research to develop successful interventions for anemia, conditions for effective iron absorption and excretion, metabolic tracer studies to identify genetic iron control mechanisms, and energy expenditure studies. Iron Metal is also available in ultra high purity and as nanoparticles. For thin film applications it is available as rod, pellets, pieces, granules and sputtering targets and as either an ingot or powder. Iron Metal 54 isotopic material is generally immediately available. Additional technical, research and safety (MSDS) information is available as is a Reference Calculator for converting relevant units of measurement.
I am just a humble electro eng.,nuclear power is totally out of my calender, but i saw some posts here, with some questionable opinions about it and i wanted it sorted out, sorry for the long post! Mainline: Fe54 IS SAFE!

bblindman

Quote from: exnihiloest on January 15, 2009, 04:03:39 AM
It is a subharmonic. The article stipulates that there is a resonance of the copper atoms at the frequency of 172 753.867 Hz due to the induction field. The frequency must be extremely accurate because it must fit the exact much higher harmonic at which the atoms vibrate.

Note that "science et vie" is a popularization publication not very serious. "Renaud de la Taille" was an enthusiastic journalist but has not a solid scientifical background. The key questions are not asked: what is the frequency of the output current? Why is there this aberrant "polarization" circuit with a diode?... and so on...
The "aberant" polarization with a diode is simply because output current is AC at 100-1000Hz (according to the paper :)  ), u dont want your input source shorted, do you?

Hope

This topic should NOT die, please notice that this simple device was in range of replication by equipment standards around when Tesla was very active in his experiments and even earlier by natural means.   NMR (Nuclear Magnetic Resonance) seems to be key to mutation of perhaps ALL elements and can be coaxed from many stable isotope.  We don't have to be using HF when the harmonics will do and this also points to a way in which nature is doing it.  There must be a connection with the natural frequency of the planet or solar system moving our elements from decay to decay until they are cold and their total energy is exhausted (which is what we call the black particle just before rebirth into pure energy again).

Edited (Why can't I ever get it right the first time, lol)

Planetary Harmonics & Neuro-biological Resonances      see how musical notes are even colors!

e2matrix

I agree this topic needs to be checked out further and it just occurred to me that getting fairly high power at this frequency is not that difficult if you have an old HAM radio HF transmitter.  Easy to do 21 Mhz with one and just use an audio sig gen for input to the transmitter for a sine wave or square wave if that's what is needed.   That will be way cheaper than a signal generator that can hit 21 Mhz as ones that go that high tend to be very expensive.  This sounds like a fairly easy project waiting to happen ;)  Does anyone have any thoughts on how much DC voltage and current might be needed for the 1/2 Tesla ?