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Meyer-Mace Isotopic NMR Generator

Started by tak22, March 22, 2008, 05:59:16 PM

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Kator01

CTI,

there is no mention of the core-material used in the Meyer-Mace-device.

If NMR should have any effect then certain elements must be present:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKkcdfSdt5Q&feature=c4-overview&list=UU1ZrGlkxBvG9WOwIs2eApLA

Watch this closely.

In the russian yoke-experiment some time ago they found that the russian tv-yoke was magnetized and this indicates "hard-ferrite"-material which is used for permanent-magnets. So cobalt59 might be the key.

Regards

Kator01

CTI

 Kator01,


I agree the Meyer core material of his iron transmutation generator must use an activator of non-zero spin material(s) such as cobalt59 if NMR is involved. I have had a tube monitor deflection cores and power supply toroid's measured with an XRF and they show some cobalt and other non-spin elements.
In the Colman device the elements that are NMR active are Co59, Cu63, Cu65, and P31. However we know that the NMR frequencies of those elements are all below 202.404 MHz for a 11.744T magnetic field. So with an activation frequency of around 300Mhz a static magnetic field would have to be around 17 Tesla. I don't think that is in the realm of replicate at home, but then like I said in my previous post there must be another process of NMR activation. If you look at the Colman device the magnetic field is in oscillation in the order of around 300MHz it's not static as well as the addition of an electric field influence to the material. It could be possible elements are activated in an order by given amount of time and by the variation in magnetic and electric fields that allow the activation of all those elements.  I will note in both the Colman and Meyer device setup show not only magnetic influence but electric field interaction.

Michel Meyer

      The polarizer that's  attached to the + of the battery  in the French magazine article.
      Czech patent 284,333: {figure 1-figure4}, point 4 and 12.


Harold Victor Colman & Ronald Gillespie
      European patent GB763062: {figure1-figure3} point 16, 15, with (19 and 18) or 27.


I think it's a mixture of both magnetic and electric fields that allow these devices to activate and work.

T-1000

In our TV delfection yoke Lithuanian experiment it was not so strong 50Hz magnetic field circulating over 15 turns from 9V 1A transformer.
To cause mechanical resonance (consider that on atom spins levels) it takes very weak force to accumulate energy to the level where atom energy is released on its breakdown. If you could harness energy of atoms directly, 1g of matter would give much more energy than any todays nuclear plant could give in form of electricity...

br549

  I agree (at this point in time - anyway) that it requires both the magnetic field and electric field (RF) cause the material or compounds neclui to become unstable, (as stated in the Colman Patent). At first reading I got the impression that the coils which produced the magnetic field (in the Colman Device) was only used as a governer to control the rate of alpha and beta emissions (as indicated in the patent) which may be the case, once the reaction is started, - but - after learning only enough to be dangerous about NMR, I believe (at this point in time, anyway) that the magnetic field may be necessary to start the reaction. The Colman patent indicates (by the design of the magnetic coils (15) pole pieces (14)) that there is a concentration of the magnetic field at several points along the tube (13) containing the reactive compound (located between the zink and copper pouder). If I had to guess, I would say that at each one of the strongest magnetic points of the pole pieces (14) is where the reactive compound (in the glass tube (13) is located. The patent talks about multipal cells (each cell consisting of (copper powder - reactive compound - zink powder). It seems likely to me that the highest comcentration of the magnetic field would be at these locations. By using the multipal cells, it may be easier to obtain a stronger magnetic field (at multipal pin - point concentration points) rather then by using a single larger magnetic field.  The patent drawing shows the pole piece (14) having two points of magnetic concentration points, indicating to me that colman used more than one point, but could be any number over and above what is indicated in the drawing, which is typical of patents.

dieter

Seems like this is yet another project that fell asleep.


Which is sad since it may have the potential to deliver some kilowatts out of a shoebox size device, like for 2400 hours.


Just a few things I want to add here. FE 54 is normally harmless, but the teaction will release free neutrons. Depending on the amount of exposure, these can be harmfull, see wikipedia, neutron. Lead shielding was mentioned, but that does not stop neutrons.


Water will do so. So this reactor needs to be in inside a water tank, eg. in a sealed box under water, or behind 6 walls containing water. Even concrete may shield rather well, as it contains crystal water.


However, when neutrons collide with matter with a certain speed, they may also cause beta and gamma radiation. So an additional Lead shield may be good.


Furthermore, it was mentioned that the frequency of 21mhz must be matched precisely. I think that is wrong. In NMR nuclear magnet resonance,  the resonamce can be achieved by any frequence, if the magnetic field has the right strength. For instance with the earths magnetic field, resonance can be achieved with a few kilohertz. Of cource, the resulting "echo" from the matter of interest will be significantly smaller.


So, we can assume that we can tune to resonance by using a fixed frequency and a variable magnetic field, which is much easier. Also, we can try to use eg. a CB radio transmitter at 27MHz and then simply increase the DC power in the electromagnet coil. (just take care not to fry your radio by antenna specs that are wrong)


We can also use permanent magnets at the iron bars ends to first lower the power consumption and second replace the U shaped fluxpath.


However, in NMR a homogenous magnetic field is usually important. That may be difficult or impossible with PMs and simple Coils. But such a homogenous field is not absolutely required, it only optimizes the results esp. in applications like magnet resonance imaging MRI. What is important in the end of the day is, we have to somehow add a 105 Ev to the nucleus of the FE 56, this will kick its butt as much that it will break up and thereby release 20'000Ev, so the COP is about 200x, when we ignore the isotopic transition as a circumstance.


BTW. in NMR devices the coils are not arranged beside eachother, but inside oneanother: Right on the core there is a fine coil for the HF input oscillation wave, eg. 1000T. Then follows a special coil to cause a gradiation of the field, this one is not really of interest for us. Then follows the static Polarization coil, for the dc magnet.


Yet, NMR does not extract energy, but simply switches off the modulation coil frequently and then uses it to read the data the coil "sends back". Whether we use a third coil to extract the energy, as seen in the patent drawings, or not, we have to think about the implications of those probably to be expected several kilowatts, suddently appearing in all coils. We may have to disconnect the other two coils frequently. Which is where the question arises, why the output should be 400hz, as the patent states.


Anyway, interesting project.  BTW halflife of neutrons is about 15 minutes, take care.


BR