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Overunity Machines Forum



Bedini's Wooden Toys

Started by emanresu, March 26, 2008, 10:12:28 PM

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Pirate88179

The one thing I have never understood about Bedini's pendulum devices is why he never fabricated a magnet to pass through a coil while the pendulum swings?  This would not be hard to do at all. (Think shake flash lights)  It would not generate a lot of juice but it would maximize the motion of the pendulum and would not add any drag in the bargain.  Has anyone done this anywhere?  The coil could be curved to match the arc of the swing and the magnet could be made to move inside the coil with an easily designed device. (I can post a picture of one design if needed)  If nothing else, it would help the pendulum continue for even longer times before battery switching.  Just a thought.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
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scotty1

 ;D  Funny as mate.
Not a Patternmaker ay?
You know Patternmaker's are proud of their work.....and often take pictures...some of which may be seen here.
http://community.webshots.com/user/scott_l
Eat your heart out mate..... ;)
Check out my Les Paul guitars I made.....sweet as.... 8)
I love makin' stuff...it's kinda piling up all around my joint  :o
Like I said...i can make almost anything, and at the moment i'm making pumps for the oil rigs and other petro-chemical plants.....
I would rather work making free energy machines, but I would say that if the devices on that Bedini page worked, hundreds of people would have done it....
I myself made a pattern and cast up the metal bar with the slot in it from that very Bedini drawing.....It didn't work of course....duh.
As for the other Bedini drawings on that site, since they are so old...they do not work...it's simple.
If simple ideas like those are not quickly replicated...then they don't work except as motors.
As far as i know...nobody got a window motor with only a cap...to self run.
I've seen the Bedini video of it...but that is not independent.
If engineers had as hard a time replicating formula's as folks had on bedini's drawings then we would have no power at all...........but we would all be experts on batteries?
Bedini is a hard worker...no doubt about that...but a good free energy machine will be able to be replicated easily...if not then it is no good and cannot be used on an industrial scale.
Now on the other hand, if the devices did work as shown then that means everybody is very,very, lazy, and I don't think that is the case.
I like to think many people work hard on these things, but i would not declare an O.U device unless it worked according to a solid plan, able to be replicated EVERYTIME.
I would not feel good if i designed a motor and nobody could ever make one themselves.
The energy is everywhere, and i think one day the problem may be solved, but non working devices will always be just that.
Scotty

Ren

Scotty, I have read about the magnet motor that matches your cutout. Bedinis comments were that Ron Cole (who built the device with him) tinkered around with it for weeks before he got it to sustain rotation. It was barely limping along though and its probably not worth the effort unless built on a HUGE scale. (By the way, that picture above is not geometrically correct, which is the definitive factor between a working device and a lump of steel) Love your work though, I believe you have done a few Ed Lee replications no? Perpetual motion holder?

In regards to self running.

The window motor has been shown to self run and a few people have suposedly done successful replications. Unfortunately there are always skeptics and doubters, along with people who lie or use deception so I guess the only way to find out is to prove it to yourself. So saying the window motor is not overunity, (nothing is in my opinion, how can you have more than total unity?) it is a UNITY device. It is possible to tap into more than you use which is what some people may classify as overunity. In that case a windmill or solar panel is OU.

The problem arises with the window motor that people dont replicate fully. One reason being that there are exact schematics for a given wire length, but the wire length is not given (it is if you know where to look ;)). So people build the circuit and wonder why it doesnt work when their resistances dont match their coils geometry or their magnets arent up to spec etc.

I have built a number of Bedini replications by the way, including a basic window motor that was not to spec. That basic model would rotate off less than  2 volts and a poofteenth of a milliamp. I will be building a window motor with large magnets as my next project, perhaps with some luck and effort you guys will have another replication to tear apart and critize.....


Oh and by the way, I found the previous remarks exchanged between Koen and Wilby a complete waste of bandwidth. If your here to knock stuff you have limited or hearsay knowledge about you should keep it to yourself, it is only counter productive.

PS. The pendulum device as seen on EFTV2 blocked up to 99% percent  of current flow, evident by the charge being retained on the front end despite it running for a reasonable length of time. It was designed to test charging batteries with pure radiant, and worked really well at first. Over time the battery simply dried up and was unrepairable, leading John to realise that some current is needed to charge the battery and that pure voltage was not enough!

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: Ren on April 10, 2008, 05:36:16 AM
If your here to knock stuff you have limited or hearsay knowledge about you should keep it to yourself, it is only counter productive.

exactly my point in refuting him ren, im sick and tired of people who haven't even bothered to construct a simple school girl hacking on john bedini's work and telling us how it should be done.

There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

Ren

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on April 10, 2008, 05:46:25 PM
Quote from: Ren on April 10, 2008, 05:36:16 AM
If your here to knock stuff you have limited or hearsay knowledge about you should keep it to yourself, it is only counter productive.

exactly my point in refuting him ren, im sick and tired of people who haven't even bothered to construct a simple school girl hacking on john bedini's work and telling us how it should be done.



Too true.