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Such thing as too small of AWG? 44?

Started by EvilXBOX, April 04, 2008, 02:45:31 AM

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EvilXBOX

Alo All, I will soon be gathering supplies after  along awaited time, and no drivers license but now I can legally drink!
Anywho, for xmas my dad offered to buy some wire for me, and I found around 3lbs of 44 AWG.
My question, since my current docs tell me about mainly 32 and 36 AWG, does lower gauge wire ever inhibit current?
I plan on only using this one spool for the entire project, as it's near 44 miles worth.
I will eventually have a seperat post about my full project, as it does have some unique aspects to it, that might not be as popular as they should be.
Chris

z.monkey

Howdy,

AWG = American Wire Gauge

The gauge of the wire is inversely proportional to the size.  AWG44 is a lot smaller than AWG32.  Plus when you wind up that tiny wire the impedance goes up considerably.  I use AWG26 enameled magnet wire on my coil that I am building now.  I'll be going down for several reasons.  The next coil will be AWG22 stranded wire with heavy insulation for; A) More Current, and B) Thick insulation to promote more electron spin in the wire.  AWG44 is really tiny wire, about the smallest that I have seen is AWG40.  That doesn't mean less useful, and especially good for starter projects.

Have Fun...
Goodwill to All, for All is One!

EvilXBOX

The only problems I see is that this much wire, 44miles, should be enough for my fiull project...and I thought that the smaller the better(I knew about the highger the gauge number, the smaller the diameter) The only real problem I see is that this much has to last the entire project, as the supplier can't give me anymore(that I know of)...I was thinking with having many many more winds it would really increase the delta to the point that it would benifit. From all docs I am reading your 26 and 22 gauge is entirely WAY to small.
I think I plan on using 8miles exactly on each rotor of the motor, and the rest is practice wire
oh, And isn't a thing about OverUnity extreamly low current, in the miliAmps, and High voltage, 2KV+? I beleive that's what I have been reading

z.monkey

Howdy,

OK, I don't see you using 44 miles of wire to wind any coil.  You can calculate how much you are going to need by multiplying the circumference of each layer times the number of windings of each layer times the number of coils.  About my wire, you don't know what I am winding.  I am assuming you are winding Bedini motor coils.  Wire is talked about by size and not gauge, AWG22 is bigger then AWG44.  So, give me some idea what you are trying to build and how big the coils are supposed to be. 

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Nutcracker

Quote from: EvilXBOX on April 04, 2008, 05:25:31 PM
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From all docs I am reading your 26 and 22 gauge is entirely WAY to small.
...

If you are saying his 26 to 22 awg wire is WAY too small, then you need to rethink your own wire.

Here are some statistics for you regarding AWG wire sizes taken from http://www.tfcbooks.com/referenc/wiresize.htm

AWG    OHMS per 1000FT     Wire Diameter in inches
0000          .049                         .460     
000            .0618                       .4097 
00              .078                        .3648 
0              .0983                       .3249
1              .1239                       .2893
2              .1563                       .2576
3              .1970                       .2294
4              .2485                       .2043
5              .3133                       .1819
6              .3951                       .1620
7              .4982                       .1443
8              .6281                       .1285
9              .7925                       .1144
10             .9987                       .1019
11           1.261                         .0907
12           1.588                         .0808
13           2.001                         .0720
14           2.524                         .0641
15           3.181                         .0571
16           4.018                         .0508
17           5.054                         .0453
18           6.386                         .0403
19           8.046                         .0359
20         10.13                           .0320
21         12.77                           .0285
22         16.20                           .0253
23         20.30                           .0226
24         25.67                           .0201
25         32.37                           .0179
26         41.02                           .0159
27         51.44                           .0142
28         65.31                           .0126
29         81.21                           .0113
30       103.7                             .0100
31       130.9                             .0089
32       162.0                             .0080
33       205.7                             .0071
34       261.3                             .0063
35       330.7                             .0056
36       414.8                             .0050
37       512.1                             .0045
38       648.2                             .0040
39       846.6                             .0035
40     1079.                               .0031
41     1323.                               .0028
42     1659.                               .0025
43     2143.                               .0022
44     2593.                               .0020
45     3348.                               .00176
46     4207.                               .00157
47     5291.                               .00140

That is as high as the chart goes.

from http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/BrianLey.shtml
Diameter of a human hair is between 0.001 and 0.007.

So your 44 AWG wire is about the thickness of a human hair.  (easy to break)

Also, looking strictly at resistance, 8 miles is 42240 feet  which is 109.528 K Ohms of resistance (assuming it is straight wire and not in a coil)

Hope this information isn't too pointless for you.

Good luck with your coil.

Regards
Nut