The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)

[pauldude000]

@Tishatang

..... What can I say! .....

I had never associated this concept before.

This might well be the purpose for the speculated necessary D.C. bias, not to provide a D.C. coupling, but to   change the natural resonant frequency of the unit!!!!! IT WOULD BE EASIER TO ACCOMPLISH USING A PERM MAGNET. (I didn't need that stupid subwoofer anyway. I have got to try this. )

What I have just seen is one magnet, flat toroidal. One flat pancake bifiliar collector on each side,  with a two or four coils quadrantly wrapped around the circumference of the entire thing. Worth testing at least.

For a really strong toroidal disc magnet, look in the drive systems of some med-high end turntables. They often used a motor to drive a belt which drives the magnet, but it was coupled with a small air gap to a steel plate for the drive system. Good idea, as it prevented sudden spin ups, or stops. Good for us, as it was a powerful magnet. (Works GREAT for picking up nails out of your yard too.)

Paul Andrulis

   

[pauldude000]

@borg13

No, I do not think so.

The rotating field motor has the fields all aimed towards the center, or perpendicular to the toroid core.

It does not produce the same effects, nor do I think it capable of the speed of rotation, though I could be wrong on the speed part.

However, the only way to find out truly is to try. Go for it.

The stator may not work for this reason too, though it has a better chance... Well, thinking about it, usually alternator field windings are generally:
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wound.

If this is the case, it MAY work, but my question is what are the drag losses according to the opposing fields generated by the wires  in sync with the moving field? Consider that one half of the generated fields approx. would be opposing.

This thought depends upon both speed of rotation, orientation of field, and true resonance.

Paul Andrulis

[tishatang]

@Paul

Yes, you got it!!!
It may well be that the flat coils on either side of the magnet could be replaced by a single wound (bifiler?  toroid coil.  I hate the thought of trying to wind a toroid coil around and through a magnet and also trying to get the self resonance at a specific frequency.  I think it would work at a harmonic if you doubled or tripled the base frequency of 174.9 Khz?  This would be less wire to wind.

The idea of the pairing of the resonant 174.9 Khz coil and the permanent magnet could be a thread all by itself.  I got the idea from the Hans Coler device.  See here:
http://www.rexresearch.com/coler/coler2.htm

We have bar magnets arranged in a circular shape (polygram) with wire wound around them.  The magnets bars themselves form capacitor plates and the magnets are moved in and out to change the capacitance of the L C circuit, thus tuning the resonant frequency.  They had some small success at a frequency of 180 Khz.  I think if they could have got it  to 174.9 Khz, it would have put out more power?  When I read about the MRA, I got the idea about the resonance pairing of a coil and magnet at a frequency of 174.9

I think this is the "Kicks" and sustain input part of the TPU.  The Lorentz O force is the rotating field part of the equation.  Both represented by real devices, not just theory.  A resonating coil on top of the magnet will produce a standing waves.  When a rotating field moves through the standing waves, it will generate power.

Of course, we still have to solve the control part of the TPU.  Baby steps all the way!  Please be careful!  I now see how the TV set could have imploded.  This is not for beginners.

Tishatang

[tishatang]

@Paul and All

BARE BONES BASIC TPU  (As I see it)

ROTATION:

   In the Stan Deyo "Lorentz O" force demo he used a vertical electrode and a horizontal electrode in salt water tube placed into a magnet.  The electrodes          were at 90 degrees.  He plugged it into half wave rectified AC (pulsing DC).  And . . . Rotation.!!!

   So,we make a flat coil, representing the horizontal electrode.  Around it, we wind a coil representing the vertical electrode.  We now have the coils at 90 degrees.  We add a second vertical coil to act as the output.   We place the assembly on top of a magnet.  We plug the vertical and horizontal coils into a half wave rectified AC source.  And???

   We are not doing it here with brute force.  We have to figure out how to do it with relative weak energy.

POWER:
   Rotation. OK!  Now what?  In other words, what makes the magic happen to get the power?      
   Go here: 

   http://rexresearch.com/smith/smith2.htm

   Partial quotes in regards to the caduceus coil:
   
   "November 25, 1955
   
   Dear George [Williamson],

   I am glad that the coil arrived OK, but I am sorry that I can tell you very little about it. All I know is how to build it and that it worked. Apparently the hole down the center of the core is necessary for its proper    functioning, as is an adequate power input. It will take a kilowatt comfortably, without heating at all, and we know that it will work on 100 watts, but it won?t work for us on 30 watts. It just gets hot on the lower    power! I don?t know what the lower cutoff power is, nor do I know what the boys topside told me; "Play with it and learn".

And another partial quote:

   "Analog Magazine (Letters to the Editor)[ 1971 ? ] ~

   ...The coil is said to be a single winding of insulated copper wire, about #16 or #18 gauge, wound on a ferrite core of 1" to 1-1/2" diameter, and about 9" long. The coil is caduceus wound, that is, one begins    the winding in the middle of the wire?s length, winding the wire in opposite directions around the core and crossing the wires on the same opposite diameter points each time around.

   The coil is said to be an energy sink --- that is, current fed into it just disappears, causing no radiation, even of heat. When operating and placed near a grid dip meter, the coil is said to show a large number    of resonance points across the spectrum from 200 to 2.0 Mc. This coil is further said to have zero impedance. Further, two or more coils cannot be coupled together."

Image here:   http://jnaudin.free.fr/spgen/index.htm

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This small coil was able to absorb (transfer) 1000 watts of power with almost 100 % efficiency, no heat.   How did that happen?  Somehow,  those relative few number of wires crossing at 90 degrees became transmitters and sent the energy into the big battery in the sky (aether) via scalar waves? 

If this 90 degree crossing is some kind of gate.  It should be able to go both directions?  After all, a motor can become a generator.  If relative passive motion becomes a transmitter at this 90 degree gate, then maybe relative high motion starts knocking at the gate to get the energy back from the aether?

So, once we get rotation, the field is running around and around gaining energy and finally the vortex sees the output coil at 90 degrees as a receiver of scalar waves.  We now start to get the power back from the aether.  This is resonance at POINT A.  Things take off at this point and the speed builds and a point is reached that the output coil gets overloaded.  Now the vortex starts to see the 90 degree control coil as a gate and it also becomes a scalar receiver and runaway happens!!!  This is resonance at POINT B.

Love, prosperity and freedom lie between POINT A and POINT B.   
May we all get there safely.

Tishatang

[tishatang]

@gn0stik

I can identify with your comment about linear thinking and passing right by information that was really useful.  We all tend to get an idea and only look for things that support that idea, blind to anything else.  It seems things come around at a later time and you realize something was there all along.  It also has to do with your own personal knowledge base growing.  Kind of reminds me of, I think, of a Mark Twain quote.

"When was 18, I couldn't believe how ignorant my father was.  When I was 21, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in three years"

In regards to mu-metal around the coils in the Stan Deyo video.  It could also be to shield from the natural lines of force from the earth's magnetic field.  If you are in a craft traveling at 10,000 mph,  The changing lines of force density might be a  variable making it difficult to control everything?

Speaking of the Deyo Video and speculating about things, did you notice the outer winding on the toroid of the 30 ft craft?  It is half of a caduceus winding!  I think it is a hint that the outer winding is a caduceus wound toroid?  Stan is a bright guy.  I am speculating that because of secrecy oaths, he could not come right out and show that.  So he left a good clue?  If a small straight caduceus coil can emit 1000 watts of scalar waves, what would a big circular caduceus toroid do? 

Scalar waves may be the link between electromagnetic energy and gravity?  Like gravity, they can not be shielded.  So, it makes sense to use them in an anti-gravity craft.  What would happen if you wind a caduceus coil into the shape of  a toroid  and a rotating field is going thru it?  If the field rotates with the natural rotation of the torsion field of the aether, you might have a big Uncontrollable TPU (assuming my theory is correct).  But, what will happen if the field is rotated against the natural flow of the torsion energy?  Maybe anti-gravity? 

Hey, I think I just gave you a new thread to start?  Caduceus Toroid and Speculations?

I just realized we don't have to wait for development of electric spinning fields.  We can spin a magnet in the middle of the caduceus toroid!  Put a shaft through a magnet, stick it in a cordless variable speed drill and let her fly.  Pun intended.  I think we will have to change the name of the thread to something like "Motor Driven Scalar Generator" or something.  This is for people who like to live on the edge.  Totally uncharted territory, as far as I know?  DO NOT SPIN IN THE DIRECTION OF THE AETHER TORSION FIELD.  In this case, it is risky to go with the flow, so to speak.  We want to spin the magnet opposite the way water forms a whirlpool going down the drain.  Maybe those of you who have Bedini Wheels of magnets can use them here?  The more magnets the higher the pulse rate thru the coil.  Build a good scatter shield to protect from flying magnets, put a load on the coil (light bulb), put it all on a scale, and who knows?   A large current transformer could work as a core to wind around.  You might even leave the regular toroid winding on it for experimental purposes?  Maybe it will collect current to feed back to the drill if the caduceus coil leads don't?  BE CAREFUL if you try this. 

Tishatang