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The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)

Started by pauldude000, April 09, 2008, 08:35:14 PM

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forest

Quote from: innovation_station on July 26, 2008, 08:59:07 AM
the kick as i see it

imagine a bubble  like our ionasphere  now make a bubble inside that bubble like a magnetic feild ok got that colapse that bubble what is the result?  the big bubble that this takes place inside will push upon the collapsed bubble and some engery will be expelled from the big bubble to make up the space of where the little bubble was ... and if this was air inside the bubble  and you had a valve like a 1 way valve upon the colapse of the bubble u could draw air from the big bubble as the pressure is higher in the big bubble

well that was a mess but i tryed

lol

ist

ill give her another go when i collect my thoughts....

It's hard to follow your explanations especially when English is not my native language, but I feel you are right.
Actually THERE IS ONE BIG PROOF that such a process is going on many times . It is aurora borealis, and most precise it is bow shock effect which fluctuations are aurora borealis.It is exactly what is needed - recreate bow shock very fast then remove the cause, magnetic field will deflect changes as a kick, which may be converted into electricity. This kick is radiant energy, which interacting with matter causing many secondary effects mostly called radiant matter like ionization or plasma. The same radiant matter is in solar wind - a cause of bow shock effect.

Now radiant energy is cool , while radiant matter (effect of reaction of radiant energy with matter) is hot. Electricity is unnatural mix of cool and hot radiant, when hot radiant we call 'electrons flow', but it's merely an effect of the true electricity reason - radiant energy.

You should know it by reading SM comments about multiple currents flowing in the same wire - the nature of electricity is not 'electrical' , it is magnetic...

I hope that I explained my idea clearly.Radiant energy = kick = wave in magnetic field = part or electricity (the true nature). Earth magnetic field deformation is one and maybe the only cause for all free energy devices.While a kick is common in all electric circuits the only energy excess may be due to positive feedback with Earth magnetic field and deflection of fast dismissed bow shock.

That was so many bad concepts in the past OR someone had worked hard to lead us in misleading direction:

- closed path concept
- ground shorting excess energy
- replacing vacuum tubes and germanium diodes  with silicon ones
- replacing pancake type coils with current ones where each layer is opposite to previous (isn't that correct ?)
- replacing RTV with LCD

I know it may looks crazy, as it's all (or looks like) a big progress on the other side...


Please correct me if I'm wrong


Spider

Well Bruce,

Here is a simple experiment everybody can do.

It is about the infamous iron delay coils.

Tho you have to go into the nanoseconds to see it, its worth it. :)

greetings Spider

PS, I never said I would post anything usefull, I just wanted to show off my equipment LOL
When a magnetic field, produced by a moving electric field, is moved longitudinally a tempic field is produced.

sparks

@forest


      I belive that the Earth and the Sun are mass systems that differentially channel the electrical density information of the cosmos.  Beyond the bow shock from solar wind we have two different kinds of vortexes or torsion fields in the river of the tempic field.  These two vortexes are continually interacting with each other and give rise to gravity effects.  To confuse things even further we have the moon thrown in there along with orbits and rotations.  The tempic river ain't lazy river round here.

@ Spider


       I want to replicate your experiment but use a hf torridal transformer in series with the pulse generator.  Maybe bypass all that and use the electric spark ignitor I have for my OxyAcetelyne rig.

      This idea courtesy of GK's stungun experiment.  It seems to elicit a "Kick" no matter where you invest your milliwatt muscle contraction impulse signal.  ;D
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Bruce_TPU

Quote from: Loner on July 26, 2008, 04:43:45 PM
Ok Spider, that's a nice display, assuming the scope inputs are of equal setting.

Here's my problem.  If I "assume" an iron delay coil is in use in the SM device, it would be in the Collector, because
the control coils are obvious.  Now we must feed the Collector?

I'm really trying to stick with visible items on the smaller SM units, so I can stick with what I can see.  This may not
be an effective method, but it's where I'm at.  Of course one can create a "Kick" the way you did.  If this IS the mode
of operation, then the "Kick" coil is the collector, and the Input signal is from the Control coils, then there is still a
different situation going on here.  (Not normal induction into Collector....)

Maybe the idea is the "Kick" coil is the seperate "Torrid"?

I'm still not saying wrong or right, but to me, it would be visable if the control coils were not "Lamp Wire" and/or had
Iron wire mixed in.  I can therefore eliminate that from the control coils, no question.

Also, was it SM who said the "Kicks" were OU, or was it the follow up people?  Not to say they are wrong, but I was
under a different impression.  SM DID infer that, but I didn't think those words were used.  He DID state the "Kick"
he was using was a Current Kick, and yet most of the "Good" designs are using voltage pulses to produce the
"Kick".

Not to repeat myself, but I still see two non-convergent methods here.  I guess it's up to me to test and prove one
way or another.  (Note:  Spiders "Iron" delay coil is GREAT.  Will any of the "Voltage Pulse" proponents explain
how it could possibly be used if NO magnetic materials should be in the device?)

Here is my "Real - World" problem AGAIN.  Divergent designs.  I cannot seem to produce a kick, without a "Delay"
of an actual signal, and no matter how much I play with "Pure Copper" coils, the elusive "Kick" will not appear.  I
can produce many interesting effects, but NOT the simple effect spider just showed.  Add a little iron delay coil,
and it's a different story, but the two methods I mentioned can't be reconciled.

THere is either Iron in the device or not.  I need a little help here, for I don't think anyone has stated HOW to do
this without the Iron, using the "Kick".  The original Spherics post is fantastic, as mentioned, but precludes the
use of iron in the system, meaning that "Kick" production is using that "Comp" field, as described in that post.
This is an aether-based device, and probably a better design, by a long shot, but it IS NOT an SM TPU.

I can't make it much clearer than that.  I realize I'm not the best with words, but logic inside me is my best
strength, and there is a confusion factor here.  I don't WANT to skip by SM to go the Aether Route, as posted.

If I not making myself and my question clear, then I guess I'm on my own till I have test data to back up anything
either way.  Hopefully, I can Reproduce Spiders effect in a collector via Mag or Electrostatic induction.  That
Iron wire would run hot as heck, but at least I would know what was up.  The ONLY thing I can be sure of
rightnow is that there is NO IRON in the Control coils on the small open units from SM, and that those coils
aren't big enough to form an aetheric vortex with the simple circuitry seen on the device.  (It seems...)

Any other helpful hints.  Obviously, I'm gonna have to wind and test this today, just to prove to myself that
I can obtain a "Kick" in an Iron coil, without directly sending in a signal.  If it's induced via Cap effect or
inductive effect is secondary.  This all assumes the "Kick" is directly OU, of which I am not fully convinced
either way, YET!  ;D ;D

OK, maybe I'm too thick headed, but I have to follow my feelings on this one, at least for a while.

Art.

Hello everyone,

We don't have to assume that the delay pulse is in the collector, because it is not.

The collector is just that.  Collects electrons (current) through a process that is similar to induction (but not ;)  )  The collector is separated from the control coils by space (distance) not wired to the control coils at all.  The collector is the output coil.  I had said that all along on my old thread, and Spherics confirmed it in his second post.

Step 1:
Visualize an anomalous "signal" of HF that appears where it should not be.  The "kick".  This "signal" or "kick" is s peek at the Ether (space, dark energy, ) being touched and radiant energy is produced.

The "signal" or "kick" is not very useful, so a way had to be figured out how to use this anomalous "signal", this litte bit of extra power that should not have been there.  It was also found that an anomalous magnetic field, of greater strength than should have been there, is also produced on the North end of the "bifilar coil".

Step 2:
SM then figured out a way to produce the anomalous "kick" or "signal" hundreds of thousands of times a second.

He set up a collector, not wired to the sometimes three and sometimes four, and sometimes two "delay pulse coils", depending on the particular design of the TPU.  This collector was made of stranded wire to increase the surface area for the collection of this current.

The "delay pulse coils", be it 2, 3, or 4, each had to be rotated with 120 degree phase shift.  This produced rotation.  As the anomalous "signal" or "kick" was produced in each "delay pulse coil" and rotated, the North end of each coil produced an increased magnetic field.  Spherics called this a "comp field".  (reference Marco's dancing magnets)  As the control coils (called such, because the "controller" pulsed and rotated them.) were spun, a current, DC, was produced on the collector. 

SM used three collectors most of the time.  These "output" coils could then be wired in series for more voltage, or in parallel for more amperage output, or a mixture of both.

All of this is in Spherics second post, and Steven Mark's writings. 

Mannix, Grumpy, myself and others have been asking everyone to experiment with Spherics second post on his thread. 

Total members of OU.com:  13,899
Total members who are working on this in the public forum, Spider.

Grumpy has been trying to give some of you the physics to get you there, but few seem to listen.

Mannix has also said to try Spherics experiments as laid out in his second post, but alas, few seem to listen.  And Mannix would know.

If you want to experiment, experiment with Spherics second post.  If you want to build his tetrahedral from his first post, that is fine, though it is more difficult.  If you need help, ask on the forum and one of the guys will help you.

Happy experimenting, 

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

forest

Where is original Spheric post ? Could we simplify thing to one bifilar coil ? I think I might encounter this effect, at least I  have Bedini SSG  working in self-oscillation mode ,now hmm maybe I should add somewhere a collector coil ?
I have found this interesting also that using high frequency field superimposed on even low voltage DC like 18V it is possible to charge quite a nice capacitors very fast. I have already checked 10uF/250V cap charged to 250V in no time.