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The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)

Started by pauldude000, April 09, 2008, 08:35:14 PM

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aleks

Quote from: pauldude000 on April 17, 2008, 05:45:39 AMI only can only guess to turn them into DC and hopefully they mix. Anything better?
From spectral math (Fourier transform and such things) you may build a battery of band-pass filters. What is band-pass filter? It is simply a component whose resistance (or rather impedance) is dependent on the frequency of the input signal. This way you can divide any signal into narrow spectral bands: the power will be streaming there where there is less resistance exist.

However, to harness this power you'll need to create a "rectifier ladder" for each band. What is "recitifier ladder"? It's the same thing as spectral band-pass filters, but its resistance depends on the level of the signal. So, if a signal is lower or higher than a certain level, a given element of the rectifier ladder does not conduct electricity. Well, I do not have any complete schematic for that, - I'm only giving a general idea. What is more important is that each level element of the rectifier ladder will be "pulsing" randomly. This is where a slow choke is necessary - it will accumulate energy with each such pulse. Then the energy from all chokes (there will be plenty of them) should be taken to load, inductively.

Of course, it looks like a fantasy - from the usual understanding it is impossible to get energy from random signals. However, the reality is that it can be done - some japanese inventor built a "water energy collector" that takes energy from random ocean waves and directs the ship. If this can be done on water, this should be possible to do in electricity.

BTW, and of course, there is no such thing as 100 frequencies of the same frequency. There can be a random signal that contains a lot of frequencies with each frequency oscillating randomly.

Well, if the above offered scheme can be made to work, sunlight energy (being basically a random signal within a narrow spectral band) could be harvested with a better efficiency.

This scheme can be also used to harness energy from secondary oscillations like those available in Milkovits device.

Something like this: ("chokes" there should all be managed in some way to take their voltage which should be basically integrated pulses - i.e. positive and negative DC voltage with a bit of oscillation)

-1..2V, -1..0V, 1..2V, 2..3V etc represent sections with diodes that conduct current in the specified voltage region (this may be harder to do in passive form than to draw this scheme, but it's about the only way to do it). So, after all rectification you are left with equal number of "positive" and "negative" chokes, each carrying different energy levels. So, some kind of "collector" is also necessary whose outputs will be plain DC + and -. Chokes should be tuned to band-pass filter's center frequency: using a too slow choke on a high frequency may not be optimal and may put a lot of energy to waste; using a too fast choke on a slower frequency won't work well, too since this will produce unsteady random voltage pulses.

sparks

@Paul

  E=MC2  applies.     For the people who think in particles and not frequency.
(wave particle duality).  The beauty of this equation is in the definitions.  I refer specifically to the M.  Mass is at rest energy or potential energy contained in an inertial frame.  Inertial frame could be an orbit a spin a twist whatever.  The electron has mass.  It is very easy to convert a portion of the mass of the electron into translatory energy.  Not annihalate or cancel the whole damn inertial frame and tweak every bit of potential energy out of this frame that was given to us by the creator of the electron.  Just direct it so that some of it's inherent potential energy flows into the desired inertial frame.  The radio wave transmitted in the copper atmosphere of the kick coil will do this. It will direct the intrinsic potential energy of the copper electrons mass into the ring. Not all of it just a bit.
The Universe will replenish the potential energy lost by the electron inertial frame.
  The kick harvests potential energy like our ancestors gathered wood to warm themselves by a fire in a cave.
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Turz

hope may help

http://www.pxarchive.de/home//tech/rotate.html
If an EM field is somehow rotated extremely fast, shouldn't all matter be repelled from its center? -kgo.
How fast do you want it rotated? It's fairly simple to construct a system to produce rotating EM waves at whatever rotational velocity you wish by feeding a pair of broadside dipole arrays with quatrature phased waves. It is quite simple to construct a system that would have a rotational velocity of C within the uniform field area. It might also be fairly easy to do this with a Hemholtz coil arangement as well, but the broadside array will be much easier to do at easily engineerable frequencies. Some really interesting paradoxes come about when the rotational frequency is high enough so that the rotational velocity exceeds C within the uniform field area of the arrays or within the hemholtz coils.
Robert Shannon

What effect would there be at the boundry where the rotational velocity reached, and then exceeded the speed of light? How could the magnetic field even propogate to the center of the antenna structure if it would have to move faster than light to reach that space? If hemholtz coils were used instead of loops, the magnetic field strength would be uniform inside the structure, how could the field strenght be uniform if there is not sufficient time for the field to propogate through the space inside the structure itself? Could such an effect actually generate a wormhole like phenomena, at energy levels far below that of neutron stars and such? As the causal mechanism, the magnetic field, is in roation, would this describe a traversable worm hole as has been postulated in relationship to rotating black holes?

and

http://antigravitypower.tripod.com/stirniman/stirniman13.html

Several key pharases keep popping up regarding rotating fields, powerful
    magnetic pulsed fields, and 90 degree cross-field phase shifts.
    For example, Preston Nicholes describes a device known as a Delta T
    antenna in the Montauk series of books. The Delta T antenna is described
    as a pyramidal structure, but lets just take two square loops, placed at
    90 degrees to each other, and feed these two loops with an RF signal,
    also with a 90 degree phase shift, we will produce a rotating magnetic
    field within the loops
(these loops share a common center point, and
    each loop is in a plane 90 degrees from the other)
    The speed of rotation of this magnetic field is a direct function of the
    frequancy of the applied RF signal
.  At the center of the antenna, the
    rotational velocity is zero, but as you move out from the center, and
    rotational velocity increases.  At some distance from center would reach
    the speed of light, dependant of the frequancy used.
    One could imagine that the rotational velocity of this rotating magnetic
    field could reach the speed of light within the antenna structure  itself
    if a way could be found to make the antenna much larger than a normaly
    resonant antenna would be for that same frequancy.  At several hundred
    megahertz, a two meter per side square loop would have a rotational
    velocity well in excess of the speed of light within the antenna structure
    itself.
    What effect would there be at the boundry where the rotational velocity
    reached, and then exceeded the speed of light.  How could the magnetic
    field even propogate to the center of the antenna structure if it would
    have to move faster than light to reach that space?  If hemholtz coils
    were used instead of loops, the magnetic field strength would be uniform
    inside the structure, how could the field strenght be uniform if there is
    not sufficient time for the field to propogate through the space inside
    the structure itself?
    Could such an effect actually generate a wormhole like phenomena, at energy
    levels far below that of neutron stars and such?  As the causal mechanism,
    the magnetic field, is in roation, would this describe a traversable worm
    hole as has been postulated in relationship to rotating black holes?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmholtz_coil
Regards
Turz

sparks

@Turz

    Exactly how it has to happen.  The turns of the kick windings create for an analogy a gas of electrons.  Then through this media a hf pulse is propogated and wave guided.  The collector copper becomes part of this media.  The collector gas experiences the wave and is pushed an pulled responding as a fluid would.  This begins an INERTIALLY driven electrical current not a pressurized current. IT WILL NOT PROPOGATE A MAGNETIC FIELD THAT WILL RESIST THE WAVE.  Each successive "radio wave" will accelerate the inertially driven electrical current.  The energy is coming from the electrons intrinsic energy.  The electrons experiencing the directional magnetic changes which accompany the radio wave;  shift their magnetic dipole moments to align with the magnetic field disruption of the radio wave.  This shifting of the magnetic dipole moments represents a conversion of the mass of the electron into energy.  The electrons slow down or cool or release photons.  This energy is released to the collector windings inertial frame. The collector current starts to speed up but never faster than the radio wave propogation moving near the speed of light through the electron cloud of the kick conductors.  Now all that is needed is to include an external circuit that converts the inertia of the collector field into pressure.
   First things first.  Lets get her spinning.
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eldarion

Quote from: sparks on April 17, 2008, 10:36:22 AM
...through this media a hf pulse is propogated and wave guided....Each successive "radio wave"...

I have a very hard time believing SM used anything remotely like a waveguide--the construction is just too imprecise for this to be feasible.

So, you might say, use HF waves, that way the construction can be less precise.  That sounds nice until you calculate the wavelengths involved and find that they are way to long to fit in the device's wires.

Sorry if I seem a bit strong on these points; I have seen the waveguide / RF idea brought up over and over (I have actually tested it as well with no results).

Eldarion
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