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Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations

Started by Pirate88179, April 09, 2008, 09:43:54 PM

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Michelinho

To recap:  ;D

This is how I see the inner workings of a Nathan Stubblefield Cell. A Self Generating Induction Coil.

You build a Stubblefield cell exactly as in the Letters of Patent. With a Conditioning coil of good size small wire.

Wet your cell and pulse a source or not if you cant, I really think a stable magnetic field would do fine or better, I don't know. Yet... You may have to put a small load on the primary coil while conditioning, it might alter a few things. Again I don't know... Keep wet for a week. Or more or less... I don't know.

You attach a load to the cell, the cell will possibly stop when the load is disconnected, I don't know Yet.

You give a sharp jolt to the conditioning coil. The bolt in the center is to have the largest possible iron mass to hold the magnetic field. That one too is now rusted. Do not clean...   ;D

The electrical path goes from the copper wire to the load and back to the iron winding with the strange crystal lattices that flashload the magnetic field to the copper wire that in turn feed the load. The control coil which is also hit by the flashload fires back into the load or it fires to a relay or other gimmicks.

There are many iron oxides and we don't know which will form in what proportions in the cell. I also now know that iron oxides are used everywhere in electronics. Crystal structures are very important in nature and found almost everywhere. Some Iron oxides look like small triangles or pyramids at the nano scale.
It could be supra conduction or a relative.

Some comments?

Take care all,

Michel

That the best way I can put it for now.


Michelinho



Again over engineering.

The bifilar used also has a nice property, it does not produce an external magnetic field. So as I have seen in the sketches one shows a space at the top. Is it so to get some power to the conditioning or control coil. I think he mentioned that the conditioning/control coil is limited in its output capability. But it also has to be powerful for the jolt.

Take care,

Michel 


Michelinho


Re:

I just sent an email to my son-in-law who cracks water to prepare 2 electrodes for a test in one of his cell.

I told him to wrap 2 tight rows of cotton on the iron and 2 loose ones on top. Not to contaminate the cell with iron oxide. Pulse with his cell source for a week with the cotton kept moist and do a hydrolysis with those. I hope he has time to work on it this weekend and test next.

Now I am EXCITED.

Take care all,

Michel



Pirate88179

Michelinho:

Don't take this the wrong way.  You have a lot of good ideas and theories.  I would suggest that you begin replicating and posting your results.  We have all been doing this for a while now and, as I have said previously, you have some good insights.  I would like to see them put to the test in your own replications.

I read over in Joe's topic where you said we wound sloppy coils.  Mine were not sloppily wound and neither were many others.

I guess what I am very politely trying to say is that we, as a group, have posted our experimental results, both good and bad, and we have made some very good progress.  Once you build a coil, or coils, and equal or exceed our present state of the art, then I think a lot of people will begin to use some of your ideas that work.  Until then, ideas are just that.

Jeanna, for example, has built and tested more coils than anyone else here.  We have had at least 5 other people than myself that can light multiple LEDs from our cells.  I know it is not much in the big scheme of things but, it works.

Speaking for myself, I look forward to your experiments and their results, no matter what they may be.  This is not a competition, but a group effort.  If you try a new idea and it fails terribly, then post that too and it will save others from going down that road.  To me, failures are only stepping stones along the way to success.  We are all open to new ideas and approaches here, but, I also think we would like to see some experimental input and results from new folks as well.

I look forward to yours.  As I have said several times now, you have some very good ideas.  Time to put them to the test.


Bill
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Michelinho


Hi Pirate,

As I said before, I need just one component to start and it is the soft iron wire. I have had my hands on some before when I was fixing diesel engine. It is the wire used to lock bolts on many parts of the motor, specifically the fuel pump. It is very pliable and has a dirty black finish. That comes in rolls of a few hundred of feet. I will have to check at a few truck part suppliers and go pick some. I have been out of that loop for 27 years.

As I said before starting to expose my project:

QuoteI will first try to sum up some of my ideas of the Stubblefield Cell functioning as I see it from the Patent then how I intend to proceed. Maybe jumpstart a few new ideas.

That is why I started posting. I know you have worked hard and the only project I have posted is my Newman motor. But I need to know where I am or could be wrong. If someone chalenges a part, I can asses some or the whole of my design.

So I will wait for a few assesments from the group.

Take care,

Michel