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Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations

Started by Pirate88179, April 09, 2008, 09:43:54 PM

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Michelinho

Hi Pirate,

The 1.2v cell limit is pretty much everywhere. I am sure that is only one basic aspect of the design and many other factors become a possibility. If the output is 1.2v, the current can be as high as 5 or 10 amps with adequate wiring size. That is what I expect but with a potential much higher with the various oxides and special the coil construction magnifying the effect and bifilar collector coil(s). His portable antenna looks familiar and rings high voltage.

I expect to see ~7v ~2 amp as a primer but am ready for less (That would still be a great achievement). I did a quick check with the measuring tape and copper tape on top, coupled as a cap like the Stubblefield Cell (8 ft long 1/4" wide not rolled up) and got .357v no moisture lying on my desk. The tape glue acts as a dielectric. I tried to remove it with lighter fluid but no go.

The final model or the updated one I'm dreaming now during my happy times (loaded on painkillers), I would guess at least 10 fold more for a 6" to 8" coil in a TPU with the Stubblefield design core. Maybe more if what I am uncovering with the great helps from everywhere specially from the theoretical physicists help.

From Sparks:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4454.msg122471.html#msg122471
Quote@Michelin


     This is very interesting information.  The crystals "grown" on the conducting mass field under controlled energy parameters.  Permanent magnets are an attempt at this but only influence the metal mass field on it's response to a dc current flow as the heat is extracted from the metal.  The dielectric film grown on the conductor now turns it into a matched dielectric information mass information form of matter.  The dielectric information and energy density information able to be conveyed in unity in it's field of influence.  Permanent scalar wave transmitter.  This is very much the construct of a plazma.   I picture a plazma as a form of matter that is a permanent capacitor.  On a neuclear model this would be a configuration of the electron energy shells which are stressed to one side of the neucleus.  The protonic influence now stronger on one side of the atom.  The entire atomic structure then rolls to equalize the molecular electrostatic charges.  This leaves the protonic neuclei on the inside of an electron cloud bank.  The capacitor now an inside outside configuration.  This stable mass field can now easily transmit protonic or electronic information at superluminous speeds longitudinally through it's stratifield mass fields.

The deeper I go, the deeper the mystery lies but I am closing in.... Significant when you consider those who succeeded without all the tech we have. They are the Ones.

Take care,

Michel





Michelinho

Hi all,

I have found something in my junk that will make it easy to replicate along a 3/4" steel strap.

Take care,

Michel



EDIT: Pirates did you try 5cu to 10cu and 6fe to 10fe? You load the coils in series that way. It's series but with an amplifying effect. Acts as a bifilar coil connected to a bifilar coil in series.

Pirate88179

Yes, I attempted that as well as every other possible connections I could think of.

It is interesting to note that all of my decent power readings came from either cu wire (it made no difference) and the core itself.  These
readings were always at least 2 times, or more, those of fe wire to cu.  So, I also tried series connections using the core and cores as well.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

jeanna

Hi everyone,

Michel said something in an earlier post that gave me an idea. I think I misunderstood him but it may be a new way to connect a pair of NS generators.

[I think NS ALWAYS used these in pairs and about 30 feet apart too.]

The idea would be to twist the 5Cu with the 6Fe and then use that "center" tap point as a single wire in much the same way that the joule thief is wired.

Now, with 2 of these connected. ...

I actually think I tried this once when I had multiple coils under the tree, (but nothing showed up on the dmm.) The joule thief has a transistor that switches the the current on and off.

Maybe there is a way to make the current switch on and off by having 2 coils wired somehow. (enter the idea that this could be wired to work like a transistor.)

I am SURE a DMM won't show anything, but, in spite of that,  maybe there is something there.

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I am looking forward to Michel's report.

@Michel, I assume that  the primary bifilar coil is what you are calling the conditioner?

Also, there are so many TPU threads, could you please post the address of the TPU thread you are referring to? I know it slows down a post, but it REALLY helps the readers. I always found that when I put everything right into the same post, I got more response from others, which meant to me that they read all of it because it was right there. .. Just a request and suggestion bundled together.  ;)
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I think it was in the beginning of this bifilar thread that I noticed the disc-like order of the windings. We talked about that for a while. I think Storre got the benefit of it because he had not yet wound his coil.

A little later I noticed that in the upper left hand side of the picture in the patent, the copper and the iron were NOT lined up. I know NS relied heavily on the excellent drawings he made, but I wonder why this section of the drawing is different from the rest.

This is still an unresolved question for me.

(The other unresolved question is why the drawing indicates a caduceus type winding but it also shows 5 rows with both pairs of wires at the top. This is impossible. The number of rows must be an even number for the wires to end at the top.)

Also Michel, My experience is that the volts n amps go DOWN after the coil has been wetted and has become a little rusty. I will check my iron core one that is still outside.

I think very few coils that were made from folks on this thread were made with soft iron. Mostly they were iron covered with zinc. I gave up asking about that detail after a while. I think I only have one that is made with NO zinc anywhere. It performed "poorly" at first, and has continued to perform about the same - ie. it never lost any power. So, I don't know what that is about, and I suspect this has something to do with your iron oxide idea. I hope your back gets perfectly pain free and strong right now!



jeanna


Michelinho


Hi Jenna,

I tried to keep the confusion out but I'm sorry if I swayed you.

Primary coil is iron copper coil.

Control coil, conditioner coil or the exciter coil are names for the outside coil that is over the primary coil.

The conditioner coil is used in the wireless for modulating the magnetic field created in the battery. Modulated pseudo ac or modulated dc or what ever kind of signal that would show up on the scope.

I never heard of the joule thief or not under that name, thanks for the info, I'll check what that does.

He could have used a clicker or buzzer coil do create a more powerfull potential. BEMF in action like in the Newman motor.

Take care,

Michel


P.S.: My wife sewed the cotton jacket for the strap. so only missing my steel strap to start assembly. I'll heat the steel strap until red, that will promote very fast oxidization.