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HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban

Started by Jdo300, April 14, 2008, 02:40:29 AM

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wattsup

@Loner

Please look at my post on previous page located here;
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4486.msg97865.html#msg97865

It touches upon some of the points you made but what I am trying to see is the step by step process. When you take the FTPU apart, there are not that many parts. So when you ask yourself how can these parts work with each other in order to produce 61 volts, could be radiant voltage only, but regardless, what happens to a pulse when it is on and as importantly, what happens to the pulse when it is off, because both ways, you will have action. Tesla would probably say that your power is also in the return. Trying to push always one way will not work, or may work but the overall energy expended will be higher and the flyback, if not used will create heat and havoc.

So there is a question of what is desirable in a toroid core. In the terminology I have seen they refer to these cores as having various levels of permeability, then they show the level of micro-henries the core can store, at least this is how I am understanding this. So having minimal winds and expecting maximum action, I would presume that a toroid having maximum of both permeability and micro-henries would be desirable to both store some of the initial pulse energy that is also transfered, plus to transfer flyback at pulse off. Once this single action is working, then it is a matter of matching the toroid to the control coil windings using the proper capacitor values.

Also, I think the so called "kick" is happening when the flyback returns to the toroid core from both ends and meets inside the core. That would be the only point of collision I can find in the FTPU since such flyback would be of higher potential and add to the source and given the control coils are pushing a movement forward, they are not really colliding. Also, since the collision is when the flyback returns to the toroid core and is automatically reflected back to the control coils as a pulse, this can create the illusion that it is the pulse that is producing the kick, but in reality, it is the collapse.

Yes this may diverge from other theories but it is OK to have several avenues to push forward, as long as the basis can hold some reasoning and offer some method of experimentation, which I will do with a new toroid plus control coils with a lamp wire triple ring.

Come to think of it, if I was to choose a new ready made center toroid, I would choose an isolating toroid transformer since both winds would be identical and the core would have to have the ability to reflect near 100%. Hmmmmmmm.

@sparks

We know SM feels the heat of the OTPU before picking it up. I don't know about one level being hot and other cold. I will look for the purple light you have talked about and let you know if I see anything or if it is from simple light reflection when he places the two lamps near the OTPU.

wattsup

@EM

I don't know if you will notice this but on the FTPU rings, I think, no, I am now sure there is only two rings going all the way around. We do see three at the output wires because this is where the two rings overlap. You can also see at the front top electric tape the one of the ring wires is overlapped to take up the wire slack. I was wondering why the ring was so nice and clean on the other sides and when it came near the output side, things got so messy. lol

nickle989

@Art ... that is what I was kinda thinking to ... stick the control circuit though in the centre of the torid, take apposing magnets on one on top and the bottom and slowly move them into each other (use plastic screw rod and plastic nuts) ... depending on what hemisphere you live in .... the freq's will need to be adjusted and fine tuned for each location ... magnet flux lines will re-act much quicker and more precise for some fine tuning to compensate for the area.  I would wrap the torrid around the outside with a bifler made of copper and a steel insulated wire, maybe with 4 turns or 8 ... ( I would even try an odd number like 7) then wide the torrid with 4 quadrants.  I have a fairly large coil left from my electroliser ... one might even try making a torrid using steel strapping/banding use for shipping .. this is coated with paint .. the edges though would need to make sure they are also coated spray paint it ...

Funny on the control circuits all of been on the outside of the torrid ... SM had it in the centre for a reason .. I think it is due to the infinate inward concentration of flux lines of not just magentic property's but also the energy centre .. this centre then pushes energy to the middle medium from the outer layers .. that middle is the collection point / pass through as it trys to get equalibrium back to the centre.  Hope fully that makes some sense ..

I would not try using a power source for the control ciruit from the wall plug ... maybe use some large flat batteries or those small 9volt used in cameras .. very little metal as anything in the core will disrupt the fields.  Reason for SM using 2 magnets is because the third is generate in the core .. 3 magnetic fields can never find equalibrium and will always try to fall into each others fields until it is only 2 .. you can see this for yourself by taking 3 rectangular/square magnetics and make a triangle .. you can't.


Just some thought's to try .. even if we can't exactly replicate the SM who gives a @#$ as long as we can come close or some frankenstein version.

For what it is worth you can use a Tesla flat coil and an Al round plate to get magnetic shielding .. and pulsing the coil with just a couple germanium diodes inline and a cap will cause the magnet to amplify.

EM .. try sticking your control in the centre just for the heck of it and see if anything happens.

wattsup

@Loner

I will prepare a small diagram of what I am trying to do and post it soon.

I think the magnet is a continuing conundrum. The FTPU has one near the toroid. The OTPU has two but the toroid is not near the magnet at all but placed behind the circuit board. The STPU has one but I don't know any more. The LTPU has none but a simple swipe of a large hand held magnet. This will have to be cleared up soon. @JD thinks it is for show.

Right now I am looking over the specs of the toroid cores I have on hand, up to 4", big ones. LOL

Looking over the specs from these two pages;
Iron Powder Toroid Cores - http://www.oselectronics.com/ose_p89.htm
Ferrite Toroid Cores - http://www.oselectronics.com/ose_p88.htm

I notice that the specs for ferrite toroid cores is per 1000 turns in mH and for Iron Powder Cores per 100 turns in uH. So yes I am confused. I have more Iron powder cores on hand. Looking at the TPU toroid, and having already wound a similar size with 144 turns, this would be about the number of turns per side on the TPU toroid. So if you only had that many turns, would you use a ferrite or iron powder core. I am thinking Iron Powder Core.

The models I have on hand are T200-26, T225-26, T300-26 and T400-26. The 26 mix is rated between 0-1 mhz as I figured I would never be going anywhere near that high. lol

I know I may be barking up the wrong tree but thus far I have not seen any major discussions on the toroid, choice of core, turns, etc. As far as I can see there are three possibilities, ferrite, iron powder or iron rolled laminate. The last one I already tried and there is really no activity I could expect, so it leaves two choices. I'll try with T225-26. It is a tad smaller then the FTPU toroid. But given that the FTPU toroid is the same as the two in the LTPU, I figure the FTPU toroid is probably overkill anyways. The T225-26 core is rated at 950 uH at 100 turns.

Motorcoach1

IF Marco had danceing magnets why not wind coils around an Iron wire and make the mangnets dance io the wire ( leedsskialin) ........ maybe 2 wires  .......