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Tesla Patent 512340 REDUX

Started by allcanadian, April 16, 2008, 08:15:46 PM

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Grumpy

That coil has distributed capacitance and resistance - like a transmission line or pulse-forming-network.

Generally used to sharpen a pulse or better match the load.

Guess you can look at it like a pulse compressor.

(But, I am not "learned" so what do I know?)
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am1ll3r

@allcanadian
What AWG wire did you use to construct you coil ?
Thanks,

am1ll3r

allcanadian

@Grumpy
I believe there is more happening in Teslas coil that we realize, I am just in the process of putting it all together with some pictures for posting. That image you posted looks like a delay line or in one patent I believe it was refered to as a "long wave generator".
Part of what I found relates to this link---http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1898-11-17.htm--- look at Fig 3 ;)
Tesla said at high frequencies the potential at any two points on a single wire can vary by huge amounts, thus if two wires were used (Pat 512340)the potential could could vary by twice that amount, if the potential difference between wires increases so does the capacity, the ability to store energy to offset self-inductance. But this energy is not wasted it is returned to the coil when the current alternates so energy is conserved, it adds to the current it is never opposed.

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Grumpy

Quote from: allcanadian on April 17, 2008, 09:18:06 PM
@Grumpy
I believe there is more happening in Teslas coil that we realize, I am just in the process of putting it all together with some pictures for posting. That image you posted looks like a delay line or in one patent I believe it was refered to as a "long wave generator".
Part of what I found relates to this link---http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1898-11-17.htm--- look at Fig 3 ;)
Tesla said at high frequencies the potential at any two points on a single wire can vary by huge amounts, thus if two wires were used (Pat 512340)the potential could could vary by twice that amount, if the potential difference between wires increases so does the capacity, the ability to store energy to offset self-inductance. But this energy is not wasted it is returned to the coil when the current alternates so energy is conserved, it adds to the current it is never opposed.

Quote(But, I am not "learned" so what do I know?)



Actually that came from a patent that used a coil with increased capacitance as a low-pass filter.
I think any success I may have comes from ice cold beer---thank god for beer

Put a pulse too it and see what it does to it.
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barbosi

Current representation of a field (the only???) around all sides of a wire carrying an electric current is like in fig.1 (source wikipedia:electricity). It is known as magnetic field.

However, form an old book "Electric discharges waves and impulses" by Charles Proteus Steinmetz, is shown at the page 10 a similar figure with a bit more details. Here you have it as fig.2.

The text says:
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The conductor is surrounded by a magnetic field, or a magnetic flux..................................... With  single conductor, the lines are concentric circles................
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An electrostatic, or, more properly called, dielectric field, ............... With a single conductor, the lines of dielectric force are radial straight lines, as shown dotted............

Again from wikipedia:
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A dielectric is a nonconducting substance, i.e. an insulator. The term was coined by William Whewell[1] in response to a request from Faraday. Whewell considered "dia-electric", from the Greek "dia" meaning "through", since an electric field passes through the material but felt that "dielectric" was easier to pronounce[citation needed].
.................
"Dielectrics ... are not a narrow class of so-called insulators, but the broad expanse of nonmetals considered from the standpoint of their interaction with electric, magnetic, of electromagnetic fields. Thus we are concerned with gases as well as with liquids and solids, and with the storage of electric and magnetic energy as well as its dissipation."

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