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Science contradicts itself..Questions

Started by GeoscienceStudent, April 19, 2008, 10:37:38 AM

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GeoscienceStudent

A wild frenzy went up amongst scientists when Alfred Wegener stated his theory of continental drift.  He was a meteorologist and came forth with proof showing how the continents fit together and fossils of same-types in now separated continents.  Scientists argued he was not a real geologist, did not know what he was talking about because he could not explain the mechanism how the continents moved.  In the 1950's the mid Atlantic ridge was discovered proving Wegener but reassessed and changed into what is now known as Plate Tectonics.
Darwin, who failed math, failed medical school and theology school finally was given a job thanks to his father-in-law as a naturalist.  On Galapagos Islands he noticed a variety of fossils but similarities to other species.  He wrote several books describing his theory of evolution. Another scientist, while suffering delusions from a malarial fever, wrote the same theory, but with greater detail.  The two met, but it was decide that Darwin would receive all the credit.  Biologists today admit his theory goes against the 2nd law of thermodynamics but state that under the curriculum accepted by Universities they have to teach the Theory anyways.  A physicisist argued that the 2nd law of thermodynamics when applied to the theory of evolution was debunked because it just showed what occurs due to the radiation and heat of solar rays.  He suggested that at the time electric bolts were flashing through methane gases and primordial goop that the solar rays had no effect on the results.  They have tried to copy this but only came up with 17 amino acids (it takes 21 to make a complete protein) and then it immediately fell apart, being too unstable. 
Scientists argue that the effects of man on the Earth are too insignificant and would not make any difference on Plate Tectonics, Volcanic Eruptions, or Earthquake.  This was a geologists.  Then in the very next sentence he describes how in Colorado they were having earthquakes and discovered it was due to putting contaminants, trash into a fault in Colorado.  They stopped the dumping, the earthquakes subsided.
Scientist disproved the bumblebee could fly.  It went against some law (I don't know which one).  The bumble bee refused to bow under the pressure of politically inspired scientists and continued to fly.
Scientists are arguing that perpetual motion is against the 2nd law of thermodynamics.  Yet in the same breath they send out shuttles loaded with satellites.  When they move at a particular speed at a particlular direction desired (previously calculated)  they let loose the satellite and it keeps moving that speed, that direction, not by any motor, or fire, or propulsion, until finally gravitational forces bring it down.  Where is the change from a hotter environment to a colder environment in that?  I'm still trying to figure this one out.  I suppose maybe one guy was right and really they are just Hollywood devised movies like Star Wars and the satellites aren't really out there and the World is flat, tomatoes will kill you if you eat them because 100% people who eat them die from car wrecks, strokes, heart attacks, murder, accidents, etc.  Heaviside component of energy is black voodoo energy and if a black cat crosses your path you'll have bad luck! 
Energy cannot be created, it is the 4th state of matter, but scientists are apparently speaking out of two sides of the mouth when they say it can't be destroyed.  If it can't be destroyed, then you should be able to recapture it, recycle it, thus use it over and over and over by regenerating your battery with it.  You should be able to capture energy while your driving from the circular movement of your wheels or even turbines set up to capture the wind you face while you move and resend the energy harnessed back to your battery or generator.  Why is this impossible and we are all called a bunch of crackpots saying we just broke the 2nd law of thermodynamics when we suggest this?

HopeForHumanity

You forget that because atoms are small they don't count for perpetual motion. And that those things called virtual particles, they arn't violations because they only mathematicaly exist to explain our entire theory of particle CoE. *all sarcasm*
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WE MUST STOP THIS! Free energy is being surpressed because of it!

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utilitarian

Geo, I think you are confusing a couple of terms.  If you take away friction and all other losses, all scientists will agree that perpetual motion is possible.   An object in motion will continue to stay in motion.  Newton agrees too.

Atoms are no different.  At that scale, there is nothing stopping electrons from orbiting the nucleus, so they spin forever.

What we generally refer to as "perpetual motion," however, is the idea of free energy - a machine that not only works perpetually, but also creates a surplus of energy for us to use. This is what modern science has a problem with, and so far, there is not really a good example to prove them wrong, so don't bash mainstream science too much.  To use your example, I assure you, if we put a satellite in orbit but then tried to extract energy from its motion, it would plummet to earth quickly.

I hope that helps.

GeoscienceStudent

My knowledge of Physics is Zero because when you take Geoscience they have you take biology or chemistry and in biology we learned useless confusing theories and chemistry we made Aspirin.

I found that only quantum physics can be used to describe geophysics though and the current manner they teach us is by theories or simplified explanations along with some equations to figure out carbon dating or the level of loss of heat and humidity at which we would have rain, So I'm pretty stumped.  I think 2nd law of thermodynamics applies but there are some issues that maybe we don't understand yet that can work to extend the energy capability.  Bear with me a moment.  I'm not all knowing.

The Earth has an electromagnetic field that comes from the inside due to convection of magma.  Also the outer core is molten nickle and iron, but inner core is solid.  Since heat and pressure are supposed to be proportionate, I don't know why the inner  core is solid and also, the asthenosphere, the lower third of the mantle is solid.  They decided these due to seismic data obtained.  Now this convection would have heat.  I am wondering if some areas are colder?  Would there be any layers of say, zpe?  This would apply the 2nd law of thermodynamics of heat to cold, energy obtained within to create the dipole electromagnetic field.  Then it has a second electromagnetic field that maintains the first called the Dynamo effect.  There is a law of Lorentz at play here, but I don't understand it.  These fields cause the earth to spin, and protects us from some harmful solar particles, that now I am under the impression that maybe is involved with electrons that can be particles or waves, according to Quantum physics.  The corialis effect along with the electromagnetic field gives the Earth a magnetic quality that is noted in plate tectonics.  Take out your compass.  Notice it points north.  Go to the internet and look up declination.  Look at the map or put in you zip or latitude and longitude.  Check the variance.  If you have # west then you subtract that number.   # east add it to your magnetic compass reading.  That is your true magnetic North.  Amelia Earhart was off course very close to the magnetic declination at that time when she crashed.


Now question:  Would this work in theory applying physics (All you engineers and physics people)
If you recreated a motor that caused some convection within, like water or something, used the energy to recreate a dipole electromagnetic field, Figure out how to make a second electromagnetic field to apply the Dynamo effect to sustain your first field, harness energy to drive your car, attach something to use the motion of your wheels spinning or cath the wind to turn some turbine to harness more energy, send back the energy harnessed to the motor to cause the convection to provide the heat...?  would that work?  What is missing?

Second question:
I noticed when I put the magnets on the negative side of the battery, and the wire attached to the top of the battery, then down along both sides of the battery, it turns clockwise.  I turned the magnets over.  The wire turns counter clockwise.  If the Earth switches its poles, which some studies coming out from University of Utah states that we may be seeing this in our children's or grandchildren's time, Would the Earth stop, the spin the opposite direction?  Or would the second electromagnetic field keep it going the same way.  Definitely the polar dirctions of the plates change N-S-N-S..and so on?

Any one know?