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Overunity Machines Forum



Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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hartiberlin

Hi All,
I just saw, that Archer has posted some new stuff and also finally a drawing:

He writes:

The beam at the extended end is 6 metres from the pivot, and the short end is 1.2 metres
from the pivot and exact 5 to 1 measurement.


0.75 lift distance heavy end

6 metres x 0.75 = 4.5 metres travel  distance light end

1.2kg x 4.5 = 5.4kg lift needed

heavy weight is 10 .5kg

falling .75metres

= 7.875kg gained from fall

-        5.4 lift needed at light end



7.875kg

-5.4 =  2.475 to spare

-        return cost = 4.55kg tested with pulley weight under beam



so double the weight = 4.95 return available.

The gain is in increased weight, as the return cost of the beam never changes. All tested
all done. All with weighed water on scales.

It is done, now to mechanise it and go up in weight after the strainer is put on the beam
and perpetual motion, if any issues  simply increase the weight to expand the gain
balance. . best part is twin weights sliding together connected to different pulleys at
the correct weight split makes it very simple to make.
you will need a 5 to one pulley for the cable length to pick up the water. There is no
loss here as you already know the lift cost was 5.4 kilos to lift the 1.2 kilos that is
where you use the extra power you allowed

basic hand drawing below...


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hartiberlin

I can hardly read his handdrawing:
It says to me:

Make sure main weight falls before ??!? empties on extension

Catch Hooks must hinge

No.2 Total weights split side by side,
keep in guides for ??!? fall
=====================================

Can anybody fix in the missing words ?
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

legendre

Quote from: hartiberlin on May 31, 2008, 07:20:38 PM

Can anybody fix in the missing words ?

"..for lift & fall" is what I see. As for the other missing word.. your best guess.

-L

hartiberlin

Okay, I modelled the basic setup
with the fulcrum
and the leverarm lengths of 1.2 Meter and 6 Meters
in WM2D and
set the yellow weight to 10.5 Kg and the red weight to
1.2 Kg.

The yellow weight goes down and lifts the red weight
in this constellation.

But the yellow weight goes down from 2 Meter idle height
to 1.10 Meters, so it moves to the height of 1.10 Meter ( so 90 cm difference height, not 75 cm as Archer wrote...)
for the red weight to be lifted exactly 4.5 Meters high to exactly 6.5 Meters high.
(My pivot point is at 2 Meters height )

So as I don?t yet understand how Archer is splitting these 2 weights and how the water
is tripping from one dish to the other and how all will interact, I guess we
have to wait until Archer will explain it more...

Hope this helps.

Regards,Stefan.
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noonespecial

Quote from: hartiberlin on May 31, 2008, 07:20:38 PM
I can hardly read his handdrawing:
It says to me:

Make sure main weight falls before ??!? empties on extension

Catch Hooks must hinge

No.2 Total weights split side by side,
keep in guides for ??!? fall
=====================================

Can anybody fix in the missing words ?

I believe the word is "dish". He is using shallow bowls/dishes to contain the water weight.