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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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Bulbz

Quote from: Glassglue on June 02, 2008, 12:16:59 PM
Well I took a very nice weekend off from this lil fantasy land you are running here and have only skimmed the 3-4 pages of crap that have accumulated since.  It appears not much is new, except that apparently we are now impugning the reputation of siphons as well.  I have used siphons a lot in my life volunteering at a public aquarium and found them to be nothing but fine upstanding strictly newtonian citizens who show virtually no OU tendencies whatsoever regardles of how I sometimes hoped for it.

Anyway, I'm not going to rejoin the futile fray, but I have considered the man Archer over the past couple of days and come to the conclusion that he is, very likely, a con artist.

Based on how consistently he twists logic and math in just the right way to support his desired outcomes, my conclusion is that the intent is malicious.  The 'maths' provided with the self-teetering-totter was the main clue.  The language was carefully massaged to mislead.  I believe this had to be intentional.  There have also been just blatant lies thrown in such as the unsubstatiated claim of a previous working wheel and the ludicrous statement that he has some team of engineers standing by to replicate his work or something...

Why would he do this?  Well I don't have a criminal mind so I am not the best to speculate.  However he has clearly convinced more than a few innocent, ignorant, and lazy-ass souls here (probably more than we know) that his intention is really nothing less than to save mankind.  Besides being disarmingly altruistic it is also megalomaniacal, egotistical, and yeah, narcissistic too (since he seems to approve of that one in particular).  So I don't want to discount the psychotic factor here either.  While he innocently claims that he asks for no money, he also has been sure to mention, and been helped by the likes of me reinforcing the statement, that he is a poor bloke, unable to spend enough time and money on his inventions that will *sniff* save mankind.  He even had to return to a menial job (!) to keep this going.

Anyway, so we have a guy who is nothing less than the saviour of the world to quite a few people, who clearly could use some cash to help save us from ourselves.  My strong guess is that he doesn't have to ask for any money - his disciples (Hello?  Chet?) will send it anyway.  These people by their nature are immune to logic and are much more interested in following a messiah than in checking his credentials, so the efforts by me and others (although they, once again, have been fun) only play into his game by martyring him.

The more I think and type, the more convinced I am that this is the basic situation.  This is not a new type of scam.  But fools and their money ... lol.  And as Darwin points out, nature has ways of sorting these things out.  Also remember that tin foil hats need to be replaced every hour cause their magic wears out quickly!



I have highlighted the quote "Anyway, I'm not going to rejoin the futile fray" from one of your posts, and yet you posted onother 3 times to my current knowledge.

I will make this simple... If you don't like it, then why participate in this thread. It's really that simple.
Best regards.
Steve Ancell.

AB Hammer



Quote from: Dgraphic911 on June 02, 2008, 05:37:46 PM
Alen

I just hate it when someone seems to be taking someone for a ride for the credit.  I have had to many people pass my work off as there own.

Who?

I should of been clearer. I am a Blacksmith/Armourer and I had an applicator invention. These are the things that People have taken credit for. So far not a wheel.

Quote from: Dgraphic911 on June 02, 2008, 05:37:46 PM
@ AB Hammer

1. i know you want to keep things private and thats your choice but do you have a working gravity wheel?.


2. lumped together or tarred with the same brush, so to speak -

3  admitting quickly the real story.

1. I will take the 5th amendment on.
2. So I don't get bashed with Quinn
3. Again so I don't get bashed with quinn

I wasn't going to post on this thread but I saw where I need to clarify the credit story.
With out a dream, there can be no vision.

Alan

infringer

Whatever ABhammer,

I wouldnt worry about the bashing if you wish I have bash free forums! I will set up a section for you to display your devices...

Under the condition that you do not leave overunity forums in respect for hartiberlin he's done great work keeping these forums together.

But the no bashing rule would be one to be followed by all.

Anyhow man I am impressed with your youtube video and to the rest a person is allowed to live there life freely ...

If he wishes to sell ideas let him.

Take Care,

-infringer-

By the way that fulcrum of archers is gianormous.

Sheesh... Doubt I'll be replicating that but who knows I just may hehe!

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noonespecial

@bubba

This thread moves faster that I can keep up!  :D

The 4 lb weight being 5 1/2" from the center represents 22 in/lb of resistance or force depending on which side of the wheel it is located on as I'm sure you know. The drawing is not to scale. The location of the connecting rod for the 9" arm could also be at least 5 1/2" from the center of the crankshaft and apply 24 lbs of lift to raise the 22 lb. weight. This works perfectly....(on paper)  ;D
I'm currently working on a modeling program to show it in action.

I think I misread your question. Yes, the left portion of both arms is 1" in length and with the 2 lb weight represents 18 and 24 lbs of weight respectively (F1D1=F2D2) of a typical class 1 lever.

Bubba1

Noonespecial:
Which modeling program are you using, and do you trust it?