Roll on the 20th June

[legendre]

Barring trickery, someone needs to continue the vein of applying some sort of "logic" to what we are seeing...and figuring out if
1. it can be made and be effective at like half that and (...)

The logic is quite simple.. note a couple of key points of the machine:

1) When totally unloaded, the long (input) end rests at ground level - it's heavier on this side. *This is important*

2) When the workload is applied to the short end, the long end rises.. no surprise there.

3) However - when the input weight is applied to the long end, the lever balances, with the workload at roughly half height. This is the ground state of this machine - in balance, with the load already half-way lifted. When perturbed, the machine will always settle back to this state.

Since the ground state is at half-lift, the 20Kg weight only has to be lifted the remaining half distance to the top - it only needs to do half the work that it would, were the ground state actually at ground level.

With a 5:1 lever, a 2Kg weight falling 5m can raise a 10Kg weight by 1m.

Or - it can raise a 20Kg weight by half a meter - and that's exactly what we're seeing. You don't need 10:1 advantage to perform a 5:1 operation.

Also, you will notice that when he's placing the weight on the long end, he actually has to do work to raise it to full height.. again, recall that the beam is heavier on this end.. so how much weight is falling, again?

Kai, what we're seeing is a lever - nothing more, nothing less. Do you see anything other than a long beam pivoting on an elevated fulcrum - anything that differentiates it from a teeter-totter, in basic concept? Where is the novel mechanism that supposedly makes this lever behave differently from any other lever?

Egyptian Fulcrum my arse, this is a total joke.

-L

[Newtonian God]

http://www.youtube.com/user/newtonsend269 

the above is the link to all the videos, they are numbered so watch the in order, three are up the last is loading, but you dont have to wait for the last one to see it running, should be up in around 20 mins, my broadband has suddenly gone to 20kbs per second, slower than dial up.

No more math lectures yeeha

cant use something that is not correct 

Thanks for the video Archer...really, I mean it. Unfortunately it's hard to see what's going on from the perspective that you shot your video. Perhaps you can have someone else hold the camera for you, or better yet, use a tripod. I hope that this is not the definitive proof that we have all been waiting for because I think that there are going to be a lot of people left scratching their heads because you have not provided enough information. Please do not tell us that everything that we need to know is right there already in the video. When can we see it running constantly...or for more than one cycle? Please show us more from a broader perspective.

[Bulbz]

Archer just posted a number of videos on YouTube.  Thanks Archer!  The only problem is that the videos do not demonstrate a working gravity wheel with magnetic assist.  Instead they show a lever contraption that Archer built in his back yard. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2G5BWR4WBY

I will say this, Archer sounds much better 'in person' (so to speak) than he does in writing.  No foul language, no monkey attacks, I found the whole thing a bit refreshing, if not a little bit disappointing since it didn't show a working gravity wheel which is what people are building on this forum.

John

I think the reason that we are not shown the wheel yet, may be because Archer is saving the best part for 20th June.

[Rusty_Springs]

Hi All
First I have to be honest here I hope the other videos are better because I didn't see anything there, I didn't see the 20L on the other end and I'm wondering why it bounced back up when theres no downward force on the other end is there a spring in the middle, I showed with a spoon that a smaller weight will lift a bigger one but I can't remember getting a big bounce back, oh well I can't work that one out so I will leave it for now and go to bed but before I do I will tell the guys biulding the wheel how they can over come the balance between weight and magnet they need and that is to put shields on the last magnet of the attracting system and the first magnet of the repelling system this will cut down the force needed to break the magnetic field going out and comming in, taking away the need to totally balance the forces.
Take Care All
Graham

[exxcomm0n]

@ MrKai

Dude,

You've finally come to the realization that there are true things outside of books.........

AND you admit it!

I'm proud of you! (even though you have yet to answer the other questions I posed, this is a hallmark moment and I shall not try to denigrate it.)

I don't care if you render the idea in crayon @ preschool (in fact I heartily encourage you to!), with a sharpie on a bathroom wall, or sky-write it.

As long as you can show this to your fellow man AND UNDERSTAND IT so you can help them to be able to understand it (to tell you the truth I've always understood the lever part, the mechanics to load/unload the light end I have ideas about, but I am FAR from the point that Archer is with this!) then Archers work is done and I am but noise in the grand scheme of things.

Use whatever terminology you have to to share the idea, but share it.

@ Archer

I am REALLY interested in the mechanics that will allow the loading and unloading of the light end!

Your video was well shot (as good as can be with 1st person filming), your concepts well explained, your building acumen VERY impressive, and your manner impeccably devoid of expletive.

All indicators of the scientific method and the dissemination of discovery. Archimedes would be proud.

I'm just happy that this particular stumbling block for us about your theory has been surmounted.

It's like (if you'll please excuse the parallel) the culminating fight scene of a Rocky movie.


I will continue to think about and model the "finished product" in my mind and on my computer desk in hopes that I can "see" the mechanism before you show it in no uncertain terms.

Since early on you've had my respect for your resilience, your theatrical manner, and now for the prowess of your building (actually, that's not true. I had the good fortune to be invited to see it [in pictures] at soapz).
Now you have it for allowing us "monkeys" to prod you into an accelerated release date.

Good on ya Mate!

Keep proving the will and determination of one man can still change the way people have thought about something "set in stone".

I will continue to "sit on the fence" of neutrality to try keep the noise level at a sane and bearable level.

But I'm deluded enough to still think each human should have the right to have an idea and talk about it with others.
I mean, I still have the ability to walk out of earshot should I choose not to hear it.