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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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Rusty_Springs

Quote from: Rusty_Springs on June 09, 2008, 06:23:23 PM
Hi Chet
Also with a pully system you need the number of pullies, how far apart and so on.
Go to how stuff works and look up pullies and levers you will see with pullies its more complex.
Take Care Chet
Graham

Hi Chet
No worries if its a lever then your back to what I have been saying, how long is the beam, what is its weight, weres the pivot point and so on.
One more thing if its a moden lever it would have been worked out using Newtons laws.
Take Care Chet
Graham

ramset

GRAHAM show me how this lever no matter what    has anything to do with Newton   this design was impossible to do with FORTY POUNDS INCLUDING LEVER WEIGHT until VERY recently  regardless of distance ratio  the materials  were not invented until recently  ANYONE  SHOW ME THE MATH  PLEASE DONT ASSUME  how can I do all this work and not self run  Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

purepower

Quote from: ramset on June 09, 2008, 05:56:30 PM
SO ANY BODY  40lbs[lever and all] lifts 1000 lbs  TEN FEET INTO THE AIR Im using a' SIMPLE' lever PURE POWER can this be done???  do you have math for this ?   no tricks just a lever made from  MODERN MATERIALS       Chet PS also PURE POWER I have another question on Hydro power   IM  not being a wise guy here im serious

Yes. Any mass can lift any mass by use of a lever. The trade-off is the heights the masses are lifted.

The energy to lift 1000 lbs 10' is 10000lbf*ft=12.85 BTU (if I remember my conversions correctly). This means the 40lb mass would need to exert 12.85 BTUs= 10000 lb*ft of energy/work to do the lifting. For 40 lbs to release 10000ft*lbs of energy, it would have to fall (10000/40=) 250 feet.

Just something I'd like to point out: the mass ratio is 1000:40==25:1; the distance ratio is 250:10==25:1. This is not by coincidence and the system would require a 25:1 lever.

Please note: I assumed the center of mass for the beam to be at the end. This is obviously not he case and would produce different results. Given more information on the actual beam I can produce more detailed/accurate analysis.

So what about hydro?

-PurePower

ramset

Pure power thank you your the best [I mean it] yes 25-1  more info to follow[ doing some experiments myself here and not scale full scale]   the hydro question  a 5knot flow  into a 10 ft funnel  with a 12 inch opening at the bottom 10 ft side facing the flow 1ft side down stream [exit]of the funnel how many GPH at the 12 inch opening and will depth effect psi [power of this]  Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

dirt diggler

Quote from: BATMAN on June 09, 2008, 06:06:18 PM
BATMAN Here....... Wake up ALL!
1. What H.P. will the gravity wheel produce on the date of June 20 2008 ?
2. It should run a 10,000 watt Gen?.
3. The gravity wheel WILL HAVE TO REPLACE THE GAS MOTOR AS A PRIMMOVER!
4. H.P. IS THE ONY THING THAT MATTERS AT THE END OF THE DAY!
5. And What brain out in F.E.LAND can tell me what H.P. IT takes to run a 10,000 watt Gen YOU MIGHT WIN A PRIZE ?
6. BATMAN HAS A F.E UNIT IN.THE BATMOBILE  ans. true!!!
AND IT RUNS ON WATER!!! And it is NOT HYG.

BATMAN has to go until next time.................have fun all.


Batman,
HP isn't what we're after here it's TORQUE that we want.
all the horespower in the world doesn't help you if you don't have the torque to back it up ;D
to turn a 10000 watt genset, you need 15 horse, give or take, depending on generator type.
No, really, I love beating my head against this wall.......