Roll on the 20th June

[fletcher]

This might seem like semantics to some but technically the magnet repulsing another magnet with a washer on top example is not doing work [in this classical physics description] - that is neither here nor there in the context of this discussion but you provide an interesting parallel for your pure mechanical system Archer.

As an aside, a bloke named Ralph on the Bessler forum has a picture of his weather vane suspended in the same manner i.e. an almost frictionless bearing as he describes it, but you need a non-magnetic shaft for the vane to rotate around - its been 'floating' like this for nigh on 20 years according to him without losing appreciable height.

[ramset]

Archer no wasted effort here   more like a feast  THanks for the meal    but know i will learn to fish thanks again Chet

[CLaNZeR]

this is my last post until then. You don't need luck so i won't wish it.

Take care Archer and see you in a few weeks time, looking forward to it 

[CLaNZeR]

Well seems we do not have to wait till the 20th June for another design. After a few months away he has his Patents and will be releasing diagrams over the next few days.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3312.new#new

[maw2432]

Ok, my little brain is starting to think about what is being said here.

It is not just the weight, but the force produced that will move the wheel.

To me that means  F = MA  or Force = Mass times Acceleration

As gravity accelerates the small (extra) mass on the unbalanced wheel - more force is available.

When I say small extra mass.. I mean that created by a mass shift.

Maybe as that mass gets to say 6 O'clock it is lifted by an outside force - say and electromagnet -- keeping the wheel unbalanced... but my little brain tells me that as the Mass accelerates... more and more lifting force would also be required to counter the force produced by the MA.   At some point an equilibrium would be reached.    hmm.. it is still worth experimenting.

It may also be required to start the wheel by hand or a crank to get the small Mass up to acceleration to create the needed force to produce the needed torque. 

Bill