Roll on the 20th June

[sm0ky2]

@ Exx,

          i used the term "dude", because 1) i forgot who actually said that, and 2) i didnt feel like going back through the past 6 pages looking for it....

Bottom line is this: For a siphon to work with = or less energy on the output side, the output MUST be lower than the input.
Yes- i've found myself emptying one gas tank and filling another several times in my life, AND the output end of the hose is always lower in that case too!!!

IF you can get a siphon to work continually with the OUTPUT higher than the INPUT -  YOU ALREADY HAVE OVERUNITY - stop there. no need for extra contraptions.

Very simple:   Tank 1 (at height A)  --> siphon  --> Tank 2 (at height A + x)

Do this and the entire world will be free from energy problems forever.
I've tried my best to explain this to you, so at this point i would be content sitting back and watching you attempt to make one work. That may be more of a learning experience then any 16-page novel i could write about the subject...

[exxcomm0n]

Unfortunately Archer does think his explanations are proof, this has been the problem all along.

<snip>
Newtonian God
"You can believe in perpetual motion and be thought a fool, or you can believe in Archer Quinn and remove all doubt."

@ Newtonian Gawd

All I've seen you do here is hear you bitch that it can't be done.

Fine.

Dandy.

Go play with other toys then and give us the respect that any man should be afforded.

To try and fail.

The important word is "TRY".

When I see you pony up an idea, or try to build an idea of someone elses, I will start listening to you.

But until then, you have been nice and quiet for a few days.
Why don't you go back to what you were doing then?

As to the rhyme or reason of Archer, Why bother?

MANY is the inventor that was "quirky". Is he being so as well supposed to deter my interest?

Tesla polished his silverware numerous times, with many pieces of linen before he would eat (supposedly).

Does that mean I should stop plugging in my electronic devices into a electrical socket?

Going back to cleaning gutters.
(You can't ALWAYS be hounding after "free" energy )

I'll have my own rant about the stupidity of "modern" building methods when I get done.

[ramset]

smokey if i heat my syphon that would be cheating?  Chet @ BATMAN  leave Batgirl alone and throw us a bone

[mscoffman]

Newtonian God;

You seem to forget that there are others who have pretty much demonstarted
overunity devices like Bedini magnetic motors. Even if Archer's concepts are
not all true in the real world he still should be able to construct a wheel
motor that operates very close to, but maybe still below unity gain. A rising
efficiency raises all methods. He can then use Bedini's backend to produce a
perpetual motion machine. What I am saying is that he may have fooled himself
initially when he saw his 12VDC machine working because he thought it was
mechanical overunity but was actually CF cold fusion doing the talking. He'll
probably want to use a static electric brush assy. on the belt, Why do you
think he clipped all those spokes out of the bike wheel? He can still get
credit as long as he shows an operational PMM perpetual motion machine on
the June 20th. I am going to be very disappointed in all monkeykind if he
doesn't.

I hope I'm wrong and he brings "All H*ll" mechanical ZPE to oil men on June 20th
but he can still bring it partially through other methods. Different Laws, same
human principles. Inventing the LHHEA Latent Heat Hydrogen Energy Amplifier would
not be all that bad.

Archer's presentation methods though should serve as a *model* on how to present
technical information to be made to large numbers of interested people who want
to construct free energy devices. Followed up, of course, by completed explanations, designs
and demonstration. But just in presentation terms it's nearly perfect.

BATMAN's unit sounds interesting TOO to but we should not automatically transfer
Archer's credibility - in that we think we understand where Archer is coming from
technically to BATMAN. His ideas will need to stand alone in our evaluation.
IE. That red wood box with the pulley end could very well contain only hot air. 

S:MarkSCoffman

[ramset]

45000 plus reads the bat chose a good venue   show a few cards BATMAN [he definately talks the talk and walks the walk]
@did PP get the HOOK?   Chet