Roll on the 20th June

[MrKai]

MrKai
To each its own.
Proof comes in many forms.

No. NO.

Proof isn't ambiguous, evg...or else it would not be *proof*. Proof is NEVER complicated, because it is what it is.

A positive person will try to see the whole picture for what it is and than try to change the negative portion to a possible solution to make the whole thing work, if possible.

Exactly.

A negative person will dismiss it unworkable from the start.

Also true. The problem here evg, is that both of the above points of view are *extreme* points of view.

Purepower made a lot of sense most of the time, when not involved in mud slinging.
Someday you might learn that experience can be more important then brainpower or one-upmanship.

Evg, this is only partially correct...fallacy. Experience for the sake of experience isn't necessarily valuable for a situation that it is not relevant to.

For example, take someone with 20 years of experience laying asphalt for roads. Now, let's add someone else; he's got 5 years experience piloting helicopters.

I need a pilot to fly my heli...the guy with the 20 years laying asphalt cannot apply his knowledge in this field to flying my helicopter; the two are not related enough for the experience to be relevant.

I do think OU.com is the best site for free (alternative) energy on the internet, but there is room for more, where people are open minded and not dismiss other people?s idea with a simple ?that won?t work?
What I said before ?to each its own?

I agree. And you'll note that in this thread, that didn't happen. Far from it. Several people, from several disciplines, came together to discuss and debate the merits of the design, the arguments put forth for it, the evidence and the credibility of the claimant itself.

Logical exchanges occurred in the framework of scholarly debate...and it seemed to be going fine until someone decided that they could not be wrong.

They tried to prove they were right, which is part of the process, but their proofs were shown to be invalid.

Then it got ugly.

So to claim that people weren't open-minded isn't true. Being open to "all possibilities" means just that...even if those possibilities aren't the ones you like/agree with/had hoped for...

-K

[tekylife]

Let's say somebody at work told you about the magnetic drive, gave you a link to archer's website, the money, the pieces and told you to build it. The only picture of a complete wheel up there right now is CLaNZeR's. Everything else disappeared, and if you want some informations you have to glean them from the now 60+ pages of this thread.
Compare that to the manuals up at the website hydro machine download page.
You'd want something to print, a few pages, with schematics and numbered steps, like the one you read when you assemble your furnitures.
I'm afraid the average builder would be lost on the website. The concept is rather simple, the delivery would give headaches.

On the 20th, a lot of people who simply ignored the device because they thought it would not work, will want to try to build it. But they probably don't want to read tons of pages of text. Maybe someone can help Archer here .... a 4 pages pdf , a blender animation ?
We'd then have easy steps to validate the magnetic drive design.

It seems like one of the secondary effects of the design is high vibrations on the axis of the wheel. Are there any devices we can use to collect this additional energy ? A quick search gave that proposed device . I'm thinking the main translation vector would be around the 8:30 - 1:30 axis and that collecting energy on another plane behind the wheel would dampen vibrations while generating power.

@ Archer: I thought you'd be able to quickly answer those questions : http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4540.msg105266.html#msg105266 .
Maybe you're less advanced in the build process than I thought. There are only 4 days left though .Happy building!

[mango tarbash]

Sure am glad we have a few here with the necessary humility to simply wait and see before you deliver the goods Archer!

These whining, whinging, moaning, bitching, back-biting, self-touching, 'closet' attention-seeking, fag-o-tronic, know-all, dreary, wet, vapid, watered-down excuses for sphincter leeches haven't got what they came here for!!

Archer 1 -  Jealous fag-o-nauts 0

Roll on the 20th indeed!

[kude]

Gentlemen,

You do not need a degree in anything to be an inventor. The inventor is under no obligation to share his findings with anyone. Scientists and engineers use methodology and mathematics to describe observations. Inventors, scientists and engineers then use the observations to create chemical compounds, devices or methods. Share or not share, that is the question.

This a forum to share and review ideas. You need to observe what is being proposed to adequate understand it and then review it. An intelligent person might try to duplicate the device, observe the progress of others who try to duplicate the device, or just wait to see the inventor's device released. Observe and then report your findings.

Some of you are becoming tedious with your arguments. You do not need to repeat yourselves over and over again. It's getting boring to read. The math done is useful for the record, but you have to go through all the trash to get to it. Thanks for contributing the math and principles to the thread. The arguing and name calling is unessary.It's a big world and there is plenty of things to invent and things to discover. Time is better spent doing and inventing and observing with intelligence than rudely arguing back and forth.

Have a nice and productive day everybody.

[EvilToeKnee]

Well put Mango!

EvilToeKnee