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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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am1ll3r

Quote from: xbww on May 06, 2008, 04:42:38 PM
@am1ll3r

I agree with your animation except the magnets at the top and bottom are on an arc that follows the path of the outer edge of the circle.


yep you are right ...like i said it was a quick animation just to show the basic idea ;D
ill need to get a better one together :P

sm0ky2

Quote from: Rusty_Springs on May 06, 2008, 04:28:29 PM
Hi Craigy
I don't know where there comming from Craigy attracting magnets get stronger the closer they come to each other but the same it said for repelling magnet they also get stronger the closer they come to each other but what they say don't matter much when a simple experiment shows you the truth, in my way of thinking if attraction was stronger wouldn't it start attracting in before repeling can repel, wouldn't there be a difference in the distance marks of the two options but theres not do the experiment and show me where I'm wrong.
I think these are the same types of people that say you can't biuld a magnetic gate yet I have made 2 or say magnets don't do work yet I have moves a toy car over a distance just using permanent magnets.
I beleave what I see before I beleave what someone writes or says.
Take Care Craigy
Graham

@Graham -

a "uniform" field decreases with distance^2.

a Non-Uniform field (such as that being affected by another field) has a much different flux-disspursion.
there are areas of little lines of flux, and there are areas with a lot of flux smashed together.

In the case of two attracting magnets, the field stretches towards the opposite field, pulling flux from the sides into the center. - the flux density measured at a point between them will show that the field is "stronger".
In the case of two repelling magnets, the field bends outwards - trying to escape each like field approaching it.
the flux density measured at the same point between the fields will show that the field is "weaker".

In experiment::   
float a magnet from another in repulsion ( in a tube, or ring-magnet on a stick) and measure its maximum load.
the ammount of mass placed on top of it where the repelling field no longer supports the mass.
this is its "lifting strength".

Now take the same mass, attach it to the bottom magnet in attraction and lift this mass.
Now, add more mass intil the attraction field no longer lifts it. - this is its "lifting strength".

after you have done this. ask yourself which one is stronger.
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

Rusty_Springs

Hi All
The rocker to hold the rods in place is a good idea but the over all effect is still no better then my design, the pulse has been cut down to about the same as mine with the rocker or what ever the stopper will be but you have added more friction for the stopper to work so it is a much of a muchness which is better the stopper or longer electromagnetic pulse, ever way again it uses more energy then mine and I'm not adding the drag from the corner effect before the rotor magnet and permanent magnets meet.
I can cut down the force needed for my design by making my weight iron and placing say 10 block magnets together where there half way point is at say 10 o'clock going upto at an angle about 12 helping attract the weight upto the given release point.
Also I could take those magnets away make the weight non magnetic, take my electromagnet away and use my Trigate setup or corner gate setup to give me the pull/push I was getting from the electromagnet giving me a true magnetic motor but that needs to be tested.
Take Care All
Graham

helmut

@Forum
Today i had time to build a small setup and do some test,how the moving spoke will behave in a magnetic field.
First i have to state, that i have no final result.
The setup is relativeley poor and the build in friction will take a big part in it.
As you can see at the Pic,i have only one spoke in use.
Because i do not have enough magnets at home
I have to say,that the adjustment is very tricky.
Later i will add the missing spokes.
Archer did a good planing to keep the secrets hidden as long as there is no working
Device to show on video.But the pressure on him was to big i guess

Today i had no electro Magnet in use and this is good as it is
because some rebuilders might no have the mental stability and continue testing,if the results are not satisfying as they wish.I find out,that the lenght of the rod is a impotant mesure.Because,if the distance to the upper magnet is to low,the Rod will not move up to cause a tilt.If the magnet is to strong,you have a sticky point as in a smot or in a magnetic wankel.
To me it was importand to see a section from about 120 Degrees ?,where the spoke is foreced to move either by gravity or by magnetic field.
Tomorrow i will play a little mor with the spoke.

helmut

Gustav22

Hi am1ll3r,

I like your animation in your posting
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4540.msg94515.html#msg94515

It illustrates the basic concept very well.
Thank you.
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