Roll on the 20th June

[MrKai]

MrKai
Whatever you say makes a lot of sense most of the time. But it is easy if you have the backing of the general and scientific community behind you.
Unlike the free thinkers who have 95% of their friends and community against them.

Hi again, Evg! Consider this, my position on this whole...thing:

It is NOT a Black and White Issue. It is NOT either/or. This dichotomy is very hard for most people to resolve in their own minds because of the way (most) humans are socialized. We are taught early, as we have lost most of our instincts, to fight or flee. This sets the tone that rules most of our lives, a one-sided view of practically...everything.

In the grand scheme of things, I believe that most humans that aren't mentally sick want forward progress; we can see the effects of this in our daily lives. Unfortunately, duality in thought and action causes people to assume at their core that the world is All or Nothing.

Many a war, much sadness and a world of grief has been caused in humanity's history because of just that thing.

I don't believe 95% of your friends, community and the general population are against "free thinkers"...i think "free thinkers" carry this bias to help confirm themselves as free thinkers

The free tinkers do realize that free energy is unlikely to ever succeed, but still they hope and trust their feeling and build, also they explore in unknown territories, without them the world may still be thought as flat to some. (Last part was a weak argument).

I know what you were saying tho your example doesn't quite match. The world is changed by those willing to challenge the boundaries around them. You don't HAVE to be a "crackpot" to do this...you don't HAVE to be "fringe" for this to be valid and work.

Never, EVER forget Tesla and Pauling...two great men of science and progress, in two different fields, that both lost it in the end because they could not accept the possibility that they may have drawn flawed conclusions about their observations.

THAT is the difference between experimenters, "tinkerers" and crackpots.


Do I think Sean "Clanzer" is a nutjob? NO.
Do I think Stephen "harti" is a crackpot? Certainly not.

Do you know why? Because from what i have seen, they are both objective researchers. They pursue a dream, but I've never seen either of them cling to a failed implementation.

Now, to some, clinging to a failed dream is proof enough that you are a madman. I find that arrogant. But if you approach this with the, in my opinion...and that is what it is, my opinion, "right attitude" and "clear thinking" by avoiding confirmation bias and "lusting for results" I don't think there is a damn thing in the world wrong with any of this...as long as people presenting ideas and data are honest about their ideas, their progress and their intent.

This is a general life rule and goes DOUBLY for things that are driven by passion, fueled by hope. People caught up in these situations, *intelligent people* are prime targets for abuse...and abusers are fully aware of it.

Never forget Tesla and Dr. Pauling.

It isn't the dream you pursue that defines the nuttiness, but the pursuit of the dream...if you know what I'm saying.

So accept that you may be wrong sometimes (5%) and the free thinkers are wrong 95% and for that reason we can accept that you?re an average person.

I can accept that conclusion you drew, even tho it isn't exactly accurate or true

Mindboggling, I know. What I mean is I know that it is not true, but it works for you, and that's fine by me

-K

[exxcomm0n]

".......and now for the content part of the program..."

Since I have, for the greater good of humanity, put aside my objects of amusement (well, a couple), I remit (never submit) the following windmill tilter.

Here we have the Quinntessential "Try" Gate Wheel.

Like before:

wheel   = 4' (1.3-ish M) - white
hub      = 1' (30.5 cm) - clock face
rods     = 1.2' (38-ish cm) - black with green ends
tri-gate = orange
iron      = red
mags    = green

Outer weights ain't there yet, a man can only do so much, so fast.
EDIT
For a fast and dirty wheel face, I was wondering about the table tops they like making for patio furniture.
From recollection, they seem approx. size that could be adapted, and they're clear, like Sean's builds. Hard to hide wires and motors and such.

But it's got to be thick.

Again, I cannot leave well enough alone and I'm wondering how I could wrap the steel laminates to make them magnetized (quickly deguassed, I know) and what alignment I might wanna use and the creative windings that could come thereof.

The tri-gates are NOT symmetrical and I'm not sure if that is a "good" thing or not. I have to get some ball bearing balls (or are those spherical mags? Graham or Sean?) I only have 4.
2 of one size, 2 of another.

Ain't that always the way of it?

I was wondering since they WEREN'T symmetrical if they'd act like a staggered long rod gate.

Just me, floating in the aether ( ) again, smooshing (mixing) ideas together like Play Do (clay).

Oh....the pic (graphic)..........let me know.



EDIT

P.S. You can blame the altered state on Vivaldi, Tchaikovsky, Jars of Clay, Alice In Chains, Bonnie Raitt w/ Little Feat, David Bowie, etc.

God, some things in life are priceless.

[Rusty_Springs]

Hi Exx
Two things, the Trigate is made with cylinder bar magnets and it can not move more then a couple of degree's uphill, flat plan and down hill it moves perfect but uphill and it doesn't have enough energy, you can add stronger magnets to help it go up hill but thats not practical in a rotating system.
Take Care Exx
Graham

[Evg]

Writing this without too much thought given.
Why is it presumed that free energy is usually a vertical contraption instead of a horizontal wheel? (Unless you planning a gravity machine)

[exxcomm0n]

Damn.....I fo'got (forgot) that I have steel shot for my slingshot I could use for the tri-gate testing. About 3/8" (1cm) so it can put a hole in a car door @ 20' (6M approx.)

WooHoo!!!

@ Rusty/Graham

It's not there to move the end by itself, it's there just to keep momentum up.

Figuring the rod ends have big honkin' neos, and the tri-gates much smaller ones.

They (tri-gates) don't have to move the wheel, just help it maintain momentum.

Take care Rusty/Graham