Roll on the 20th June

[Morgenster]

came across something as i was placing the outer magnets around the wheell......

if you start the arc further out, and bring it in closer, then the rod doesnt experience the same "wall" effect.  it is more in the inward direction, where we want the rod to move.

heres an illustration.

The way you illustrate your arc I'd think it acts as a brake on the rod moving up. I suppose the real thing is different?
Besides, why change the shape of the arc? You can change the strength of the magnets along the arc.
But still, I wonder if anyone has vectored the forces acting on this setup? I'm still worried that A: the upper rod will not start producing downward force until it is at 1h30' because the magnets are keeping it afloatfrom 1h to 1h30' and B: the lower rod will ALWAYS run into a wall no matter how you configure your magnets because the lower weight's direction is changed from circular to a steeper curve upwards. What's making things worse is that the loss of power from the lower rod is not compensated because the upper one doesn't start generating downforce until the 1h30' mark.

[Newtonian God]

Archer isnt taking peoples money and running away with it. He's actually BUILDING this thing..
And showing us his work every step of the way.


It's rediculous to try and call him a cheat, a scammer, or a liar.  Just LOOK at what hes doing!!
I commend him for his efforts. And i hope he can get it to work.  I dont hear any complaints from the people that have given archer funds.  and personally i think hes making better use of the donated money than it would get, paying the salary of the Red Cross CEO, or some other place to donate to.


There should BE no "emotion" involved here.. This is not an emotional issue,. such comments only emphasize my earlier post....   This is about a technology. Plain and simple. If you are having an emotional response to this issue,m you need to take a step back and look at WHY that is.....

Is it because you are clinging onto some previous conception about this type of device,
   that would be threatened, should the wheel actually work?

Is it because you "believe" that it will not work, and are preturbed that people are encouraging him?

Do you feel that your entire understanding of the universe is hanging on a thread, with the Sword of God about to cut it?

What exactly is there to be "emotional" about here???    Its a wheel, it goes around, and around.....

It's not like Archer is out trying to steal your girlfriend, or drop a piano on a friend...

He's just building a Wheel.

perhaps psychiatric help might not be a bad idea.......

I think you have it backwards sm0ky, it's Archer's supporters that are getting emotional. I am simply looking for the truth. You guys want to keep shooting the messenger and avoid the truth.

You say that it's "rediculous" to call him a liar? So I guess this means that he was telling us the truth when he said that he had already built a working perpetual motion machine two years ago? Okay, so where is it? What is there to figure out? Why all the endless tinkering? Why the big Archer Quinn show? Just rebuild it and show the world. What would it take, perhaps a days work to rebuild such a simple machine, right? Maybe $100 in parts? Why all the need to raise funds? Why start building a giant pendulum right in the middle of showing the world?

Yes, you're right, there is a need for psychiatric help here. Where do I donate my roll of aluminum foil?

How about instead of attacking the skeptics, ask your hero to answer some of these questions?

[shakman]

I was referring to you and Chet. The kool-aid drinkers. The ones being duped.

I still think you need a psychiatrist mate, regardless of who you were directing this at, just for believing that myself or Chet or anyone else is going to be emotionally distraught if we lose some small change if Archer doesn't succeed. I can only assume that you are basing your assessment on how you yourself would react. This would mean that you are either extremely financially unstable or have a very fragile and feeble personality. Seeing as you appear to be able to afford an internet connection I will go with the latter.

Now please leave the emotionally stable people who are contributing to this thread to do what this forum is intended for, discuss ideas pertaining to the acquisition of OU and FE. And remember Newt, you are on "OverUnity.com: The International open source free energy research forum". I think you were looking for "OverInflated-Ego.com: The international close minded soap-box for those who wish to band-stand their disbelief in others' ideas".

Search google, I'm sure you'll find somewhere you will fit in... or... maybe not 

[gwhy!]

You say that it's "rediculous" to call him a liar? So I guess this means that he was telling us the truth when he said that he had already built a working perpetual motion machine two years ago? Okay, so where is it?

Hi Newt,
I dont really want to get into all this bickering about who said what and when, but I dont every recall archer saying he built a perpetual motion machine before, if he did then can you please show me where this was said. I always thought he said he built a machine that worked with electromagnets but was NOT OU..

[AB Hammer]

Hay Newtonian God

I think you missed my earlier question.

Why did you put a scared Newton face on the body of the Goddess as your avatar?