Roll on the 20th June

[The Eskimo Quinn]

Pure Power

Happy 21st.

Whilst some of your understandings are a little misguided You have passion for what you believe, and that is worth something.

Perhaps one day you will reverse engineer the wheel and see that it is no more than videos 11 and 12 and rusty's trigate effect together, and you will see that engineering is seeing int the future, not reciting the words of others or copying the words of others.

the wheel in those videos does not have a weight added to go from leveling out to turning, the weight on each side does not alter, it is still evenly weighted on each side, the shifting rod simply provides leverage, nothing spectacular to the average person. Rusty's gate has no push on the rod, so there is "no" energy in, yet it runs, gate after gate after gate, simply magnets doing work, something most people think they cannot do on their own. The wheel really is as simple as a rod being flung through a gate and upward to reproduce what i did shifting it manually in those videos, and you have seen it will lift the rods so you know that is also true.

An Engineer would sit and say.

I know the wheel will trun with a weight shift on an evenly balnced wheel, "I have seen it"
I know the rod ends can go through a gate and accelerate "i have seen it"
i know the rods can be lifted by those magnets "i have seen it"
Therefore there is " no reason" it should not run

engineers take what they "know" and design and build into the future. they do not wait for proof, that is a replicator, not an engineer.

You do not "know" the laws of conservation are absolute simply because learned men told you so, no more than those engineers believe the earth was flat because learned men told them so.

If you only relate one thing to Newton and flat earth thought, consider this, you can hold him in high regard still, on the basis that he lived in the time of ferro magnetics, where their power would be seen as difficult to overcome friction in such a wheel, even though mine did, i can see the fine line it crossed, yet he did not know of neo magnets, expanded fields and so on. You cannot write a set of physics laws when you don't know all of the physics that there is to know.

Be an engineer, build from what you "know" not what learned men have told you, if you wish to invent, invent something new, but do not discard what your eyes show you is true over what "should be true" based on a set of laws written when all physics was not known. Today all physics is still not known, i doubt we will live that long.

You are 21, may you live long enough to come to know one fact, we will never know all there is to know, and one man most certainly did not know back then even know what you as a 21 year old know now.

Have a great day

[BATMAN]

BATMAN HERE ....HI ALL

COULD BATMAN HAVE A MOVING GRAVITY WHEEL?

Should check out the batsite.

VIDEO no.1 UP!

Same BAT TIME......STAY TUNE......BATMAN.

[OU-812]

BATMAN HERE ....HI ALL

COULD BATMAN HAVE A MOVING GRAVITY WHEEL?

Should check out the batsite.

VIDEO no.1 UP!

Same BAT TIME......STAY TUNE......BATMAN.

Looks like it gets progressively slower throughout the duration of the video

[exxcomm0n]

@ all (well, @ least the latest contributions on this page)

Aces gentlemen!

Now, back on the content side of things.......

@ OU-812 (it was a catchy Van Halen(Haggar) album name )

If you're going to build it, build it to be used man.
That's my opinion, but if I invested a chunk of my and other peoples money in something, it'd be nice if when it worked I'd get paid back @ least a little.
Maybe that's why 6 arms instead of 2?

EDIT

You're right.
The audio tells of something in it being movable. @ 1st you don't hear it. as the wheel slows a bit you hear centrifugal force give up hold and a lot of activity. Then lass and less as it slows.
But I'll give him credit as @ least it is a wheel.

I still look forward to the thread about his device, too.

@ Pure

Careful, on my 21st b-day I lost my keys and my wallet and got thrown out of a punk bar in Chicago. Just take good friends that will look out for you on any forays into ethanol-land.

@ Shak

Good angle mate!
Keep up the "mature content".

@ Chris

True, he's young, but at least passionate and even though an engineering degree/career is not necessary to be a thinker, it does add a bit of credence to starting to @ least.

Cut him a little slack, and I bet he "grows up" quick.
But only a little, cause that's part of "growing up" too.

Otherwise, good observations and I can sympathize with where you are financially and appreciate your support of (what I deem) a good idea.


Cool guys.

Now can we start focusing on magnet interaction because that seems to be the sticky point.

I'm still not seeing the difference between magnet to magnet opposite polar attraction being different (in THIS instance) than magnet to ferrous metal attraction.

Ferrous metal can be bent, smoothed, thinned, laminated, arced, etc. a HELL of a lot easier than a magnet array, and it helps defray about 1/2 the cost.

Again, I'll post the pic I hacked up.

Thoughts?
I'm more than willing to have you tell me I'm wrong, but give me an example why I am and be sure that I'll try your example (if sanely and fiscally feasible) to learn something.

[shakman]

@Archer

You're up early mate!

Good to see you back in the mix over here. You've probably had a blast reading the sitcom this thread has partly become but we're trying to get things back on track.

@exxcomm0n

I can't comment on whether magnetic attraction to ferrous metal would outperform opposite magnetic pole attraction but it is good thinking. Cost will be a big factor preventing most of us from replicating Archer's setup so even if it doesn't outperform, it might do just enough.

I have thought about somehow using springs on each arm to assist with the repulsion from the centre. I can see this being ideal with a strong enough magnetic push from ~6 to ~11 o'clock (increasing in strength to around 7.30 then dropping off again) to kick the arms back on their springs. Then we may be able to do away with the inner magnets altogether. This should help bring costs in further still.

Unforunately I haven't had any time to mock up my ideas in CorelDRAW, and I'm behind a little on a few designs I need to do for Archer (sorry Archie) but I'll try to put my ideas on paper soon and publish them here. And until we can see Archer work his magic and share some of the secrets I'm not sure I'll get to far with my concepts in the real-world context anyway.