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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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purepower

@Exx

I'm tired of dancing these circles. I am speaking of only the potential energy component of the systems you speak of.

So how bout this:

We both write out the full formulas, analysis, and comparison for a 1 lb block pulled straight up a 12" height by a 1:1 pulley vs the same block pulled up the same height but on a 45degree slope.

I will account for friction losses and show the potential energy component is the same in both cases. I will also provide a video proof of my calculations.

You must account for friction losses and account for the "banked ramp energy" and how much of this energy is used per cycle. You too must provide video proof for your calculations.

There it is. Analysis, general formulas, detailed calculations, video proof.

I'll be ready by the end of the weekend with guaranteed 100% accuracy. How long will it take you? Can you promise the same?

Put up, or end the sharade. I've grown tired of this debate. Everyone else seems to have learned but you. This is wasted effort on my part.

-PurePower

exxcomm0n

deleted. posted before complete.
When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.

exxcomm0n

Quote from: purepower on July 10, 2008, 02:29:33 AM
@Exx

I'm tired of dancing these circles. I am speaking of only the potential energy component of the systems you speak of.

Dude, calm down.....breathe.....think of happy fluffy bunnies.

Quote from: purepower on July 10, 2008, 02:29:33 AM
So how bout this:

We both write out the full formulas, analysis, and comparison for a 1 lb block pulled straight up a 12" height by a 1:1 pulley vs the same block pulled up the same height but on a 45degree slope.

I will account for friction losses and show the potential energy component is the same in both cases. I will also provide a video proof of my calculations.

You must account for friction losses and account for the "banked ramp energy" and how much of this energy is used per cycle. You too must provide video proof for your calculations.

Didn't we already do this once?

Wasn't the conclusion that the terminology of 20:1 and 5:1 could be the describing the exact same lever?

It all depended on if it was balanced.

I'll use words this time as I don't wanna spend the amount of time it takes to prove banked energy.

Banked energy is hard (and boring and time consuming) to video-log, and if you can't realize that, I might as well video the happy fluffy bunnies and offer it up to you as even if I expended the energy to video log you still wouldn't understand.

I'm not talking about your cognitive ability here, I'm talking about your viewpoint.

Quote from: purepower on July 10, 2008, 02:29:33 AM
There it is. Analysis, general formulas, detailed calculations, video proof.

I'll be ready by the end of the weekend with guaranteed 100% accuracy. How long will it take you? Can you promise the same?

Put up, or end the sharade. I've grown tired of this debate. Everyone else seems to have learned but you. This is wasted effort on my part.

-PurePower

Dude, you take yourself entirely too seriously.
Lighten (Or light one) up. ;)

What happened to the concept of just not posting if you feel it's a waste of time?

Really, go ahead and use the Kenex or something, post a video, come back here, and have a whee of a time saying how you proved me wrong.

I may not be able to film banked energy, but I use it at least weekly to cross the largest river in the United States.

I get on an on ramp to a bridge. It's just that simple.
I've walked across it, ridden a bike across it, and drove a car across it cause it beats the alternative.

It took years to build and great expense, but its mechanics and banked energy make the dangerous and arduous (The Mississippi ain't no Marvin Milquetoast river) trivial and easily realized through a combination of devices.

Devices don't (so far) create energy. They conserve it.

A bridge is a bank loan you don't have to pay interest on (unless it's toll or maintenance) and costs less every time you use it. ;)


Now the happy fluffy bunnies go away and hard reality sets in.

You can challenge me to something WHEN YOU ANSWER QUESTIONS DIRECTLY ASKED OF YOU!
You fail this often and it's logged here for anyone to see.

Until you see my questions as more than rhetorical, I will see your challenge as hollow and false.

Grow up boy!


Happy fluffy bunny time!

I'm trying to help you see that an equation is not always all encompassing, bud.

Is this some weird way to get back at me for that "we ain't the show" comment and criteria? ;)

But either way, do what you do and the Dude shall abide.

(From the Coen Bros. Movie "The Big Lebowski", and according to an NPR interview with a few colleges, the target of many psychology and philosophy classes).

See? It's like Jeopardy!

:D
When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.

Morgenster

Quote from: Evg on July 09, 2008, 10:41:48 PM
Is Archer?s website gone? Or just a technical hiccup?

Gone, seemingly. Server failed to connect to the page. Nice.

exxcomm0n

Quote from: Morgenster on July 10, 2008, 05:56:10 AM
Gone, seemingly. Server failed to connect to the page. Nice.

So are the latest tube videos. (I hope Sean saw 'em!)

He done took his toys and gone home.

Can ya blame him? Everybody was peeing in his sandbox.
now
:D

EDIT

Oops! Soooory! My fault!

I must have been looking at a cached page  on the laptop.

The videos are there now.


When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.