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Overunity Machines Forum



Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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@ spinner

Quote from: spinner on August 04, 2008, 09:56:26 AM
You're right. It's fun. Or, it was fun until the 20th (June, of course...).

Then by your own admission, the fun has faded?
Then if this is the case, could you please explain to your reasoning for coming back?

Quote from: spinner on August 04, 2008, 09:56:26 AM
We (Newtonians, or whoever you think we are) are not getting paid "for it". We're not a Big Oil,, etc...
You know, this is an old story....

K then, according to your admission of no subsidy (payment), that would point to the sadomasochistic flavor of choice a. , wouldn't it?

Isn't it rather presumptuous to answer for any opponent of the idea as well?
Such a statement would lead me to believe there was collusion (cooperation and group effort towards a goal) amongst the opponents of the idea.

Quote from: spinner on August 04, 2008, 09:56:26 AM
Even though me and you are usually "not on the same frequency", I respect you for being smart (and a big mouth, lol),...Like a few of other, rather fair "believers" like Shakman... But that's almost all...

Since english is not your native language, I have a feeling the end of the quoted section above should be "But that's almost about all......"

If so (my above correction or substitution),  how can I be smart, yet not smart?
The "big mouth" thing seems proportionate to the amount of people that keep coming back time and again to the same end, otherwise I have to come up with a video, idea, or proposal to post usually (but not always).

Quote from: spinner on August 04, 2008, 09:56:26 AM
The rest are the freshmen, greenhorn, or whatever... And I hope (don't believe) there are a real idiots here...

Well, there are.
I'm here, and my intelligence has been maligned 8 ways from Sunday (a lot) so I would qualify your statement above, but yet there's the nagging duality of your previous statement.

Quote from: spinner on August 04, 2008, 09:56:26 AM
Say what?? Let the best man (Archurian or Newtonian) win. As AQ's pm was just a question of scallability, I'm sure we'll all find the truth soon enough....
I can assure you (for the Nth time) - if there's a chance of  a FE being possible, We would all be satisfied...

Again, even though you are very skilled in english, I think there are a couple of confusing things above.
"Say what???" should perhaps be "Tell you what, "
"if there's a chance of FE being possible" should perhaps be "if there's a chance that this machine produces what is conveniently termed FE, We would all be satisfied..."

....And to that end, I won't be satisfied until I have enough to satisfy my power needs.
THEN I can use the savings in power and build for charitable concerns, but.......

"Charity begins at home...."
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/7/messages/839.html

EDIT

@ yo-yo

Pud pulling is not a constant source of satisfaction for everyone, as it seems to be for you.



@ JohnG

Don't you wish it were this easy?
When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.

ezzob

Ok there is many forces to make a wheel go around.

Back to begin.

1: Falling water
2: windforce
2: Sunpower
4: an many more

But to make a wheel go around with fe, ou ,you have to combinate many forces.

1: Gravity force= big force
2: Centrifugal force = big force
3: Wind force = sometime force
4: Sun Power = sometime force
5: Magnetic power= see nr. 6
6: Archurian Gate Key = big force if you can handle it right, its like a motor ignition, before and after, i think its before.
7: And other forces, you name it.

I have not the time to do the experiment now, maybe when the winter is coming. ;D

Please fill in more forces you can find out?

Regards

ezzob

And you have to calculate when the wheel go faster the centrifugal force gets bigger.

regards

ezzob

And Archer Quinn you have learn me a lot.

thanks

Regards

purepower

In regards to the first device, manual flipping of the switch does not automatically make it non-OU. Flipping a switch does not add energy to the system, just controls the flow of energy already there. If it was ou, and worked as he says, he could have easily added a distributor switch (like on an old car) and had it run just fine.

Archer, if the device was ou as you say it is/was, please try to rebuild it (even as a toy) or give the plans you handed out (for safety) to Newt to build.

You say the issue is the electromagnets and your inexperience with them. There are many programs out there that can simulate electromagnets, and I know some members here have those programs. Please let them help you rebuild that wheel.

Please don't be offended by what I'm about to say, just hear me out. While your Mke is neat and the gate wand is interesting, I don't think this is the answer the world is looking for. Magnets are expensive and will die, this is replacing one fuel for another, only to be controlled by "another tyrrant." If it works (if), then there will be wars over neos instead of oil.

Gravity is free, everywhere, and never ending. If your previous device received the majority of it's energy from gravity as you describe, then this device is the answer the world is looking for.


For the record...

Energy is a measurable quantity, like distance or volume. It's base unit is Joules (equal to newton*meter) but foot*lb and kWh are also acceptable.

Power is the time rate of change of energy, like speed is to distance or flow rate is to volume. It's base unit is Joule/second (like kilometer/hr). A joule/second is more commonly known as "watt."

So, if we take watts and multiply it by how long our source was producing the power, we have energy. (Similarly, multiplying your speed by time of travel gives you distance).

A kWh (kW*h) is 1000 watts produced for a 1 hr period (like driving 1000 meters/second for 1 hr). So we have kW (energy/time) multiplied by 1 hr (time), leaving us with (energy/time)*time = energy!

To say a kWh is 1 kW produced over a he is incorrect, at this would be power/time, or the acceleration of energy (which is pretty much meaningless for what were discussing).


-PurePower