Roll on the 20th June

[The Eskimo Quinn]

As to glassglue, he aint even the water boy.

no work hmm let me see now, two opposing ring magnets in suspension is a shock absorber every time there is compression the fields work against each other. physical moving return pressure to return an object to a previous state

best not let that bowling ball drop on your foot

nite all

[Glassglue]

The water had to get uphill of your hydroelectric generator into that spring somehow.  And if it is not replenished using a source of energy it will eventually run dry, just as your wheel will stop.

[legendre]

Magnets aren't a source of Energy? they do no work??

A typical permanent magnet is created through application of an external field (H) which aligns the existing magnetic domains. In doing so, the entropy of the PM material is reduced, and it may be said that some PE is stored as strain in these newly aligned domains. Nothing too fancy here, just energy changing form.

With respect to either magnetic or gravitational fields: Field, Force, Energy, Work; four interrelated but distinct concepts. When you start confusing fields & forces or force & work, we end up with things like surphzup.com..

even a wether vane sitting on a set of ring magnets for twenty years is doing the work of a bearing.

No, the magnets in the weather vane are doing the job of a bearing. Now you're playing word games with the definition of work.

An object (a train, for instance) supported on a magnetic bearing isn't all that different from an object supported on a tabletop, in that the downward movement of both objects is being resisted by the electromagnetic force.

maybe you need to go and play for a while, maybe with a nuclear fucking bomb, maybe if you drop it beside new york fucking city it will at least wake up the dumb fucking non believers there!!!!

This seems like a bit of overkill.. literally and figuratively. Why the nuke, when just one simple, working device would suffice? Think of all the lives that would be spared, if you could just demonstrate your machine.

But of course, you can't. Should we head for the shelters now or later?

No no power in magnetic fields is there??

Power is a measure of the rate at which work is done. If the magnetic field isn't performing work (it's not) then no - no power. Just because magnets can be used to design a machine (such as a motor) which converts electrical energy into useful work, doesn't mean that the magnets - or their fields - are a source of energy.

for the novice at home go outside and pull the starter out of your BBQ, and go next to the radio and click it. it will fuck the signal, you will hear a thump every time you do it, baby shunt, EMP.

Yes, spark gaps produce broad-band EMF emissions.. if you keep on with this, you're bound to invent an early 20th century form of communication. If you're successful, you might eventually use this new form of communication to tell everyone your ideas about perpetual motion.

No power in magnetic fields? can't create them without bombs?

Huh?

magnets dont do any work?? what the fuck is around your copper coil in your washing machine?

A laminated steel core structure, and another copper coil.. what's around yours?

what the fuck is around your copper coil in your generator???

I don't own a generator, but if I did, it would have a laminated steel core structure, and another copper coil - or possibly a PM. What do these questions have to do with the discussion at hand?

perm mag is no different to an electro mag, only one has a perm charge and has has a temp, what to do think lifts cars at junk yards??

Oh! I know this one.. is it electromagnet?

Now that I've made my way through that bog, can we please see your perpetual motion machine?

-L

[legendre]

Magnets are a source of force. Similar to gravity.

Careful, now.. magnets and masses are sources of magnetic and gravitational fields, respectively. It's only when these fields interact with a second object that a force is produced.

Otherwise, I have little to disagree with!

-L

[ramset]

Sorry Chets gonna be nice and when Archers device gets built I will make sure you know how to build it  Chet