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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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The Eskimo Quinn

oohhh aaahh, geee i must be wrong oohh aaah NOT.

read it again dropkick, my poles are reversed in sequence to induce the opposite effect, the array the keeps alternation (gee just like an alternator) so just like a saltwater chlorinator keeps switching polarity so do the coils, the effect ends up a non event.

But just so you fully understand "what you don't understand" you are referring to coils with iron cores, most coils now do not have them, and as you will see neither do mine.

Get a life, or go and do an electrical engineering course, you may learn something

an electrial magnetic field with no magnetic core that holds other magnets wow, this is not a nail surrounded by wire creatinmg a toy electromagnet, you cannot make copper wire magnetic to hold anything. with any amount of current without an iron core.

What's that wendy?? yeah coming, just had to chop off hooks other hand (playing with his sword too much)

My PROOF THAT DEMOCRACY IS DEAD AND THAT WE MUST ATTACK AND KILL THE NAZIS IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU, THE U.S, aUSTRALIAN AND BRITSIH GOVERNMENTS ARE THE OPPOSITION PARTIES TO THE ORIGINAL INVADING GOVERNMENTS, DEMOCRACY DIDN'T WORK, BOTH MAINSTREAM PARTIES ARE NAZIS, DEATH TO THE NAZIS, DEATH TO ALL SYMPATHIZERS AND SUPPORTERS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39c-kpgDY58&feature=related

The Eskimo Quinn

oooh oohh mr teacher mr Hook sir, if you can create a magnet with copper coils to hold or repel other magnets, that means you just saved the world, wow look at that class, no need to go out and buy magnets for your wheel just roll up some copper wire and use that instead afterall, that is what mr hook is saying, cant run a coil past the magnets without creating the oppsite field effect and creating friction or "DRAG" so it must be attraction or repulsion of the field.

Well done Mr Hook or should i say Hook's

Your fav student Pete Pan
My PROOF THAT DEMOCRACY IS DEAD AND THAT WE MUST ATTACK AND KILL THE NAZIS IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU, THE U.S, aUSTRALIAN AND BRITSIH GOVERNMENTS ARE THE OPPOSITION PARTIES TO THE ORIGINAL INVADING GOVERNMENTS, DEMOCRACY DIDN'T WORK, BOTH MAINSTREAM PARTIES ARE NAZIS, DEATH TO THE NAZIS, DEATH TO ALL SYMPATHIZERS AND SUPPORTERS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39c-kpgDY58&feature=related

capthook

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on May 27, 2008, 01:01:09 AM
oohhh aaahh, geee i must be wrong oohh aaah NOT.

read it again dropkick, my poles are reversed in sequence to induce the opposite effect, the array the keeps alternation (gee just like an alternator) so just like a saltwater chlorinator keeps switching polarity so do the coils, the effect ends up a non event.

But just so you fully understand "what you don't understand" you are referring to coils with iron cores, most coils now do not have them, and as you will see neither do mine.

Get a life, or go and do an electrical engineering course, you may learn something

an electrial magnetic field with no magnetic core that holds other magnets wow, this is not a nail surrounded by wire creatinmg a toy electromagnet, you cannot make copper wire magnetic to hold anything. with any amount of current without an iron core.

What's that wendy?? yeah coming, just had to chop off hooks other hand (playing with his sword too much)



You're digging your hole deeper and deeper...

N/S/N/S arrangement does nothing to eliminate Lenz's Law... most generators/alternators use such a configuration.

And most DO use iron cores - small home-brew windmills being the few exceptions that don't due to the iron "cogging"

And an air coil will suffer the drag from Lenz's law as well.  If you had ever actually BUILT such a device - the effect would be obvious.

I have been civil with you - while you hurl insults and curses at me....
I have provided solid science - you have provided jibberish....
You will probably look back on this after learning about Lenz's law and wish you could delete your posts....

:)


rlortie

Quote from: Rusty_Springs on May 27, 2008, 12:40:28 AM
Hi All
I just wanted to say CapHook is right but you just have to google to find out, having said that there maybe a system the will not put drag on the wheel and thats a fariday wheel which is  magnets in the middle of the wheel with a copper disk between them but I'm not sure if the brushes to pick up the current will cuz to much drag.
Take Care All
Graham

Michael Faraday"s first transcription of his experiment was placed in his diary October 28,1831. it is referred to as a "Homopolar (Acyclic) generator and/or a unipolar dynamo.  One polarity is taken from the physical axle requiring Isolated beargings or supports. the opposite polarity is picked up off of the edge or rim of the conductive (copper) disk. Only the outer pickup requires a brush or rubbing contact. The axis pickup can be achieved with a simple piece of wire contacting the center of the axis.  Another trick for a horizontal axis machine is to have the rim running through a mercury bath with an electrode pickup placed in it.   

If you are interested in more depth, I suggest research on Bruce Depalma and Dr. Paramahsa Tewari of India.  Look up the "N-Machine and the "Sunburst Homopolar Generator"  Bruce Depalma papers dated April 29,1990

As for a magnet cutting a field, it is not measured in ohms, it is Lenz law and it is and deals with "self induction"  aka Counter EMF. All are simply called 'inductance".. Counter EMF is a property similar to inertia in a moving body.  It impedes the  starting and stopping of a current.

The key word for electromagnetic coils in Quinns machine, is the study of "relunctance"  A shall not endeavor to go into depth here.  Seek out and find a copy of  "Basic Electricity by Rufus P. Turner 1957-1963 Copy rights. it is written in the simplest layman terms that a novice can absorb with ease!

Note: such a device is capable of high amperage but very low voltage. Exactly what an electromagnet requires. Bad side is amps create inductance, which in turn creates heat, heat increases resistance and now you can debate ohms!     

Ralph 

The Eskimo Quinn

That is correct it impedes the stopping and starting of a current, it does not create physical drag, or friction, as for buildin stuffs wiff lectricity, musssa bin missin alldat stuff when i was da fucking manager at an electrical engineering firm In charge of fucking production.

Please stop reading books and think you know how this applies in the real world.

not one electrical engineer here, if so tell me.

what product/substance is used to conduct electricity that does not work in the standard linear configuration in other words the resistance cannot be measured by length like wire because it conducts in parralel form, and you won't find it on the net, but if you are currently in the industry you would know.

now for hooky i will speel it in crayon, this means substance like wire or a metal or a fucking orange but NOT an array of items that make it work in such a manner, it is a type of manufactured conductor.

So for the learned book readers who have never built electrical items for a living that deal purely with resistance variances, spare us any further comments about what you "KNOW" when you dont really know anything at all, well not in the real world
My PROOF THAT DEMOCRACY IS DEAD AND THAT WE MUST ATTACK AND KILL THE NAZIS IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU, THE U.S, aUSTRALIAN AND BRITSIH GOVERNMENTS ARE THE OPPOSITION PARTIES TO THE ORIGINAL INVADING GOVERNMENTS, DEMOCRACY DIDN'T WORK, BOTH MAINSTREAM PARTIES ARE NAZIS, DEATH TO THE NAZIS, DEATH TO ALL SYMPATHIZERS AND SUPPORTERS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39c-kpgDY58&feature=related