Roll on the 20th June

[infringer]

Mike,

Welcome to the thread bud glad to see you made it from youtube!!!!

Welcome to OU.com bud your newman replication was rather interesting I knew you'd find a place here...

I'm with Archer there is a way and I will post a picture possibly on how it can be done while he most likely already has one I would rather take a stab at it without cheating and looking at his design! got to eat for now...

Edited to show below a possible thought...



Picture courtisy of rukiddingme...

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[b0rg13]

@ Rusty
   Of course you can make such a small motor spin around with just a small pulse. Bedini motors do it well. See that thread on how to recapture it back. As for that type of motor having any kind of shaft power, sorry not there.
   Here you have a short pulse and then gravity takes the weight down for you. You will get much more power that way than by the pulse motor. More weight on the arms means more torque at the shaft. Why not lets see if the gem motor can turn a 95 amp alternator.
   It will all come out in three weeks. Get ready to build, I am.

   The best part, if I can only muster up enough to run an inverter to say 1500watts, its 1500 more than I had to begin with. Best part, its free after you save the initial investment. Only takes 500watts to run my whole computer system.

thaelin

wow you must have a MASSIVE computer system!.....use a laptop and youll be able to run a small heater in the winter time! .

[exxcomm0n]

Hi all:
   Well I guess I will make a small note on where I am now. Instead of trying to fight the word battles,
I decided to go underground and play. Well, I have a "one" tube wheel that can sustain rotation for
for a short while. New bearings are tight yet. Tube is not straight so has drag. But still does it.
   My slider has two 3/4X3/4" neos coupled to a 5/16" ss rod with 43 ss washers on each end. A coil
of 200' of #20 wire on each end to move it. All mechanical commutator on the back side of the
rotor to fire the coils. I had to add a small piece of wrestleing mat to cushion the magnets as they
did make quite a thump when hitting. Need to turn down the power to the coils a bit so as not to
make a bounce off the other end. KISS system. Proof of concept done and works!

   Off to find a suitable wheel now. This one will have the same setup but more tubes for a better
torque value at the shaft.
   This will be the exxcomm version with the coils on the tubes.

                    Next, the standard build when its published.

thaelin

@ Thaelin

Sounds sweet man! Glad to see you back!

You've proved the concept in the way it was presented by Archer, unlike me who started playing with it to suit my own materials and desires, and got it working as advertised!

You should REALLY show people with a video on YouTube, but only after you've got figures about how much wattage the electromags draw, and say nothing about it being "perpetual motion" or using no energy. Just use those words as video tags or something.
After you SHOW someone and spoon feed them all the data except the conclusion, they might realize it (the conclusion) themselves and be that much more apt to build and show what they did using your instructions, and present the proper conclusion.

I want to build it as a toy and sell it the same way I suggested for you to above.
Kids want to learn, glory in the wonder of discovery, and have a hard time unlearning something they've seen and played with 100's of times. It keeps school from form fitting their minds too much.

Isn't that what it's assumed Archer is doing here and now? (Well to a point, we have to wait for the video.)

Now, with that whole business about the "exxcomm version", I don't get to claim even version naming rights until I BUILD ONE to prove the version concept.
I may have had an idea about the placement of an electro mag/solenoid combo in this process, but I doubt I'm the first, or only one.

Beat me to the working build and it's the Thaelin version of the Archer Wheel!

I have yet to get the wheel to turn on its own. You've already beaten me past that hurdle (I should have used the electromags like I was told to!), and so I have to get hustling so I don't look like a piker (lazy ass).

The only suggestion I might have is that to use the coil for the initial 7:00 to 1:00 shift, and use permags at past 1:00 and 7:00 to barely hold it at the tube top. This should give it "wall" clearance (the permanent mag magnetic field is met at the "top" of the repelling force to keep holding up the rod, instead of the "side" and the side/side repelling effect killing spin) so the weight has less to overcome for the wheel to keep spinning and your eletromag power draw is really small.

The other upside of this is that it's that much more power to use for something else.

@ broli

Soon bud.
When the wheel I've put a bit of sweat into works, and I'm sure that I have the concept concrete, my time will open up a bit.
But I want to do this one right and get it done and working, since I now have the investment of time in it.
Soon, but I bet a few of the less self centered here will be happy to look at it.

[ramset]

If you read all his posts [Archers] you already know how he does it   then its  just A LOT of tuning   Chet

[infringer]

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In reference to the edited in picture of my above posting
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BTW coils can be flatened in the above picture that I edited into my last post but I would think something like this would work anyhow I think archers initial plan was to use a standard generator with the wheel application...

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Borg13
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I think his power supply is rated at a max of 500watts his pc however does not use that much power even running the thing for hours and hours on a video encode... I dont imagine that much being used he is simply a little confused that max wattage output is ... That is not what you are using majority of the time even no where near ...

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Archer
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Archer chill bud you got tons of support man dont worry about a simple piece of pee gravel as long as you know its there you shouldn't sprang your ankle on the sucker lol but the smart remarks are rather funny... But be careful when you say everyone thinks in square form I've thought of plenty of inventions years before they were invented when I was a kid I was going to do something with them and should have many years ago I should've applied for patents on a few things that are out there today... Nothing ground breaking so to speak but digital picture frames is just to name one and years ago I thought of concentrated solar using magnifying glases as well shame I cannot prove it but I held the thoughts years ago the only thing that I have thought of as a kid that did not come out was a dog leash where your dog cant wrap you up as if you've been hog tied...

But hey go for it patent it the idea was the least brightest but it may pay off because it is a simple annoyance I noticed when I had to walk several dogs we had growing up ...

And I am sure that I am not the only one who has thought of this either! I think of easier ways to do stuff at work on a constant basis I amaze myself at times when I over come annoyances ... But I am far from perfect believe it... And there is no doubt that excomm is both creative and resourceful...

Aye Yah! Dropkickin time archer muah! Take care bud.

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