Roll on the 20th June

[redriderno22]

here it is

enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_EneAngx9s

[street_creep]

HI all been watching since the beginning . Fascinates me to no end . Anyway I will be building this hopefully soon. Never realized how hard magnets are to find where I am .  Had a question though if you were to use electromagnet at the 7-9 area , is it possible to pulse it with the up down movement of the rods ?? Kind of like those flashlights that you shake to get a bit of juice in them . Faraday theory I believe .  sorry if it has been mentioned before for this piece .

Thanks

go easy on me . just trying to get in "the game" here .

[Rusty_Springs]

Hi CapThook
Your so right mate but I think yours and my logic has falling on deaf ears so I'm just going to sit back and watch oh one other thing they keep talking about waiting for the 20th but didn't Archer say his not biulding it now his biulding something else so theres nothing to wait for.
Take Care CapThook
Graham

[MrKai]

I too have been following this saga since it hit Engadget.

I am honestly "eh" about the whole thing; I have no strong feelings regarding the veracity of any of this, on *either side*...and I'll tell you why:

1. Archer Quinn is very obviously going out of his way to look and act like a total kook...so much so that, knowing real genuine kooks like I do, it is funny to me that folks keep going on about his (obviously affected) nutcaseness...to the degree that it is almost as if the guy is BAITING the doubters.

2. Newtonian Physics, like many things that we know and understand, are meant to be science....and the one thing science, true science, is not, is absolute. Science is not about "truth"...it is about observation.

"Truth" is the domain of philosophy...and religion.


Number 2 is FAR MORE interesting to me because you see...science has, sadly of late, become a LOT more like religion as far as I'm concerned...that is to say, many lay-scientists and S.I.T. (scientists-in-training) seem to be 100% convinced that "what is currently understood as" and "the final truth and answer" as the same thing...or they become so embroiled in their own rhetoric that they just don't actually consider if it, to borrow from the Jefferson Airplane, actually "means shit to a tree".

It is like the Creationists/ID vs Darwin camps, this crew here. What I've always found funny about the Darwinists is that at some point, even without proof positive of many parts of Evolution Theory (and I mean "Theory" in the scientific sense, not the "lay" sense, as well, they don't mean the same) it is now "unscientific" to even *posit* another theory, wacky or otherwise, because there is only the Theory of Evolution.

We won't go into how it gets a bit...shaky when you go waaaaaay back past the observables, and is as reliable as say...the Jewish Space Zombie Daddy Theory.

Seems Newtonian physics has similar...issues, but with these guys they just sort of do the "well when we say useful work, we mean it within the framework of Newtonian Physics".

115 years ago, it was impossible...IMPOSSIBLE for something heavier than air to fly..."and here are the numbers to prove it".

Of course, a nut in a bike shop was seeing birds do this all damned day and was like...

"Huh. 'kay."

What I am saying is this: I have no idea if this (wink, wink) "nutjob" Archer Quinn can make a wheel that doesn't stop turning...to which you can hook up a pully to turn a generator to produce enough power to you know, power my shit at the hacienda.

HOWEVER...

I am almost 100% sure that none of his detractors have less than a hope in heaven of figuring out the problem because it is a forgone conclusion to them that it is impossible...and you cannot do what you cannot conceive is doable.

Like flight...radio...and who-knows-what-else. Can't be done. I think it is quite vain and arrogant to assume that all there is to know about physics is known...and very unscientific, to boot.

Furthermore...I often wonder what in hell people think folks *want* from these machines; if someone can get less than 100% output for the input, and the input isn't $4/gallon or $500/mo or someone standing there with a hand crank...I'm not really seeing the problem here.

It is sort of the MIT vs Bell Labs methodology conundrum; one group is looking for the best, perfect, bookwise solution...one group is looking for practical application of knowledge.

I look forward to seeing how deep this rabbit hole goes.

[infringer]

Welcome MrKai first off I love engadget as well very up to date site ...
If I wanna read news this is the site I visit all the rest of the news seems depressing people killed at war, car accidents, the recession pfffft as if, and the oil costs rasing every day dont need to watch the news to know the price at the pump, people die every day for foolish reasons and liberal reasons as well, and people will always be careless with there automobile... and as for the recession I really dont see it that much differnt for previous lows we've already been through and came out rather strong... Works picking up by us heck were even exporting goods to europeans, outsourced labor actually from china get that... Seems we are making the best of the situation and still making it every day while a bit tougher life must go on and we must press on.

I have a broken shakey flashlight yes it should be possible if magnet is positioned right imho very nice idea if we produce energy in this manner and it should be easily done we have OU problem is it will take a lot of induction to create useable power but still it will be OU and with 3 hands I believe there would be 6 passes up and down through the coil might function nicely as a free energy battery charger!!!
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Just thought I would add shakey flashlights if you buy them you should pop them open and slap hot glue all over the battery and holders espicially the one right over the magnet as it will fall out really quickly this is where it is made to break so you buy more!
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Of course this will work if the wheel works... Interesting time to make a battery charging toy if you can charge batteries it is proof of OU and this could be done with a toy model...

That is of course "if" it works great thinking... you may have set the magnet closer and extend the tubes a bit further but hey it sounds likely.

There you go kill two birds with 1 stone generate power through induction and keep the wheel spinning and bingo full project licked OU is real scientific history with a small scale toy!

I feel pretty confident while it may take a coil that is not completely wrapped... seeing as how we do not want a lot of friction or possibly a flat coil on front and back of the tube still should generate voltage passing by the copper coils alls we need to do is keep the sucker spinning and generate power and it is OU of course the ultimate goal is providing power like a generator but... Once OU has a working model it will continue to spread like cancer and people will be inspired to try all differnt methods of free energy generation science will be less apt to be scared to stand behind a working model as well for fear of loss of credibility. Once the can o worms is open we shall see a lot of fishing...

Go Fish!

-infringer-