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Overunity Machines Forum



Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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dirt diggler

Quote from: CLaNZeR on May 28, 2008, 05:04:01 PM
Someone must of hacked your site mate, do not worry about it, go back and have another beer  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
No one would be mad enough to build a Fulcrum that big  ;D ;D ;D ;D, defo not you :)



Yes Archer, what have you been doing with all your spare time :o  maybe all these debunkers were wrong when they claimed you were all talk ;D ;D
No, really, I love beating my head against this wall.......

The Eskimo Quinn

how's the wheel coming clanz?? had a strange result with my wheel yesterday, had to change centre plates, when it was running it tore out the middle, tried to fix it but, had to use another plate, same issue as red, but i have a strong axel. The problem is the arms try to swing out around it to break the wall, so the flex is huge, not like the electromagnet setup where i didnt have this problem. but when i restarted it, i wasn't looking at the top arc being out of position and it ran for over a minute without it, so when it is back in place it should be right to go ( mind you my base magnets weigh around 15 pounds :) so they have some grunt. should have both running on the day weather permitting for the other machine (its zero outside at the moment and a bitch to wortk in anyway, rain doesnt help)

Hoping red gets the axel fixed soon, would love a heap of these running on the day
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Glassglue

Archer you Bozo.

Only you would try to provide "math" without using a single equals sign, lol.

Then you make errors that are so transparent even I can see them.

Up through step 7 you are quite sane and correct.  F1xD1=F2xD2.  Where F is the force and D is the distance raised.  All of your examples are correct I believe.  Very simple and very repetitious.  Example:

(1kilo)x(1meter)=(0.5kilo)x(2meter)

or

1=1

Excellent.

But then you mention a fulcrum, where the same equation applies, but proceed to state:

(1Kilos)x(8meters) = (10Kilos)x(2meters)

or

8 = 20

Not quite a proper equation is it?

In the meantime you have pulled some magic pivot point bs out of your ass where you shove it forward to somehow get a 10 to 1 ratio to do your trick.  Unfortunately, when you move the pivot, you also change the heights D1 and D2.  This is because D1/D2=L1/L2 where L is the lever arm.

You get it right in step 8.

The point is that your 10 kilos is never going to be lifted it's 2 meters because there is not nearly enough force on the other end.

For your 10 kilos to rise 2 meters you will need to have more than (10x2)/8=2.5 kilos on the long end.

I think this was one of the points SigmaX was making.  Has anyone else bothered to sift through the shit a lil?  The equations are really simple.

You might want to check this out before you sink any more of what little money you have into this machine of yours.

CLaNZeR

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on May 28, 2008, 05:41:01 PM
how's the wheel coming clanz?? had a strange result with my wheel yesterday, had to change centre plates, when it was running it tore out the middle, tried to fix it but, had to use another plate, same issue as red, but i have a strong axel. The problem is the arms try to swing out around it to break the wall, so the flex is huge, not like the electromagnet setup where i didnt have this problem. but when i restarted it, i wasn't looking at the top arc being out of position and it ran for over a minute without it, so when it is back in place it should be right to go ( mind you my base magnets weigh around 15 pounds :) so they have some grunt. should have both running on the day weather permitting for the other machine (its zero outside at the moment and a bitch to wortk in anyway, rain doesnt help)

Hoping red gets the axel fixed soon, would love a heap of these running on the day

Not back home till the weekend, sucks being away from my small workshop during the week as could get loads done else, got to pay the bills somehow I suppose!

Ummm bit worried now you said about the middle as my concern is the pressure put on the center axle when those arms start doing their thing. I think shock absorbers may be the next move, well atleast rubber pads :) .

Spent a bit of time drawing a picture of my next stage tonight that I will be adding to the Wheel at the weekend below: Ordered some nice sturdy brass plate that I can make the brackets out of and will lathe down brass weights to make sure it is well balanced as I add them.



Let's just say I am glad I am not building to the scale that you and Dutch are LOL  ;D

Cheers

Sean.


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sigmaX

Hi Glassglue,

If it is true that 80 bucks go for each kg of machined aluminium, and he already used 13kgs, this is a very sad situation. Quinn, you shall stop, try to explain everything as clear as possible, and read / digest / discuss the arguments like the ones Glassglue and others had been writing down since the beginning.

You do whatever you like with your money, but maybe it is intelligent to USE a bit of devil?s advocate discussion, just to check your ideas againt it.