Roll on the 20th June

[Newtonian God]

again...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0unC855JmKM

Nice animation badass. I have been meaning to post a link to Phun here for others to play with Newtonian physics. I have been using Phun with Windows Parallels on my Mac for a few months, I did not realize that they had released the Mac version. ( I knew that there was something about you that I liked. ) Thanks for the heads up!

For those of you that have not played around with Phun yet, you can download a free copy here: http://phun.cs.umu.se/wiki/Download I suggest that all of you Archerites play with it for a few hours before you waste too much time in the workshop trying to build Archer's perpetual motion machine.

PHUN - the 2D physics sandbox! WATCH A VIDEO DEMO HERE: http://phun.cs.umu.se/wiki/Phun

Beware, it may be worthless software on June 20th, along with all Newtonian physics!

[AB Hammer]

@The Eskimo Quinn

I have looked at what you have and seen what the others are doing, and even if you could get it to work. How big will it have to be to do any real work?
I see a oversize toy that would have to be as big as a fares wheel to do anything, if it did work. Which only would make it a 2nd class at best. This is why I am no longer waiting, for I feel I have seen enough.

[Sprocket]

@The Eskimo Quinn

I have looked at what you have and seen what the others are doing, and even if you could get it to work. How big will it have to be to do any real work?
I see a oversize toy that would have to be as big as a fares wheel to do anything, if it did work. Which only would make it a 2nd class at best. This is why I am no longer waiting, for I feel I have seen enough.

Now that is frankly an unbelievable statement from someone who is so involved with trying to reproduce Besslers work - use the same tired old argument that Bessler himself had to contend with from the sceptics of  his time!!!

At the very least, if it does work, it will be proof of OU and that Newton's so-called "laws" are nothing of the sort!  After that, it's just a case of refining the concept - just like Bessler did to prove his wheels could indeed do "real work"...

[street_creep]

I wont be posting here anymore the thread has too many oil people on it. and i dont need to defend logic, the math says it is true and they just cant live with knowing their world is over.

private messaaging on here is probably a good way to go and simply start a thread of a boring name bin done before and post to each other.

leave them completely out of the loop. remove the power they have to disrupt

Dude WTF you giving up that is BS . Aside from what people say keep on doing .  just because people have their opinions which differ from yours. who cares stick around and answers questions about the device . Your theory is your theory you don't need to explain it anymore lets tak about the unit just answer those questions You have explained enough for those interested to start tinkering and asking normal questions . either you (and I am talkin to the rest of us here ) start dickin around and at least trying the idea or you don't . For those that don't wanna try sit back and watch the success or failure . Me ..I am  doer I wanna play with the thing thus I tinker with it.  It is what it is . No need to sit here day after day after day and rant about this that or the other thing.  Lets Talk about the Device for Fcuk sake and enough about the BS.  I think folks , if you can't afford and a couple hundred bucks to tinker you might want to wait around and be quieit and see what happens. Some of us just want play .


Jesus

[tbnz]

You guys just don't give up do you? If you don't believe it could work, then just piss off, we have heard it all before, we don't need your point of view, we don't need you telling us that we are wasting our time.

If we want to spend time playing around with ideas and making stuff then that's our decision.

I really don't see why you are trying to convince everyone that we shouldn't be trying these ideas, what's your point? what do you hope to get from it?

We are here to discuss and build, tinker and enjoy it while we are at it, for most of us playing around in the garage is a hobby, it's enjoyment, it does not matter if it does not work out in the end, it's a project and when it's over we will move onto the next project.

If your here to try and point out how smart you think you are, or are here trying to save everyone, just don't bother, we don't need or care how smart you think you are, we don't need to be saved.

It this was my forum, i would simply remove your posts, but it's not, so best you don't fill up the conversation with your bollocks point of view.

Just GO AWAY!