Roll on the 20th June

[Groundloop]

@badassdjbynigh,

You forgot the force of magnets in your math.

Groundloop.

[Newtonian God]

You guys just don't give up do you? If you don't believe it could work, then just piss off, we have heard it all before, we don't need your point of view, we don't need you telling us that we are wasting our time.

If we want to spend time playing around with ideas and making stuff then that's our decision.

I really don't see why you are trying to convince everyone that we shouldn't be trying these ideas, what's your point? what do you hope to get from it?

We are here to discuss and build, tinker and enjoy it while we are at it, for most of us playing around in the garage is a hobby, it's enjoyment, it does not matter if it does not work out in the end, it's a project and when it's over we will move onto the next project.

If your here to try and point out how smart you think you are, or are here trying to save everyone, just don't bother, we don't need or care how smart you think you are, we don't need to be saved.

It this was my forum, i would simply remove your posts, but it's not, so best you don't fill up the conversation with your bollocks point of view.

Just GO AWAY!

We are all here for different reasons, what makes you think that your reason for being here is the correct one?

It is clear from your post that you do not understand the benefits of a debate. It sounds like you have the same ideology as the crazy Christian crowd. You know the ones...the guys that locked up Galileo! Remember how well that one turned out?

So let me get this straight, if this was your forum you would remove the voices of reason in this thread?

If you play your cards right tbnz, maybe Archer will give you a signed copy of his favorite undies.



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[tbnz]

Yawn, your boring me, I would have thought you would get the idea and leave, but no, your still here.

What a surprise that you hook onto that comment and throw in the debate one, I expected that one of you lot would bring that up, see I think your confused, it's not a debate, it's a discussion, and yes if it was my forum that this discussion was happening, i would remove your attempt at turning it into a debate.

As I see it, its an opportunity to discuss an idea and build on that idea, all I have seen of you and others of your like is negativity and put downs.

All that will happen is what Archer suggests, the discussion, not the debate, will move somewhere else you do not know about, then you can hang out here and bang on about each other, getting your rocks off by putting down other people all you want.

[badassdjbynight]

@Quinn:

forget this guy and just go to the site, you will get more pictures next week, and my tests this morning at 6 to 1 went perfectly in lift and fall, still producing OU at the fall.

I wont be posting here anymore the thread has too many oil people on it. and i dont need to defend logic, the math says it is true and they just cant live with knowing their world is over.

Archer we all know that you will be back here posting and cursing at us just like you were the last time you threatened to leave because of one of my posts.  Let me remind you:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4540.msg95917.html#msg95917

Oh, also you call me "oil man".  Obviously you have not read MY posts complaining about the price of oil.  THAT IS WHY I'M HERE.  That is also why I'm investigating electric and hybrid cars this week.  I'm tired of the $70 fill ups.  I also just happen to believe in God and in the laws of physics that he created.

@tbnz:

It this was my forum, i would simply remove your posts, but it's not, so best you don't fill up the conversation with your bollocks point of view.

Just GO AWAY!

A couple of things about that.. first off you are not the owner of this forum.  The owner of this forum is well aware that we are debating about things.  He reads this thread.  He is interested in finding true OU which is why he has this forum and also has a contest to find and prove OU.  I don't personally know him but I suspect he knows that discovering OU might be accomplished via debate and probably not by censorship.  You are welcome to open your own private secret forum where you can stroke each other's egos?

A second thing is that I find it very interesting that I'm typically either completely ignored on this forum, or .. as soon as I hit on the truth a little bit to much .. am asked to leave by all of the archer followers.  Next ramset will be saying that "I got what I wanted" because Archer says he's leaving.  (which he isn't).  Oh, and by the way it's not what I want.  AQ is a smart man with a lot of good ideas.  I would love for AQ or anyone for that matter to find a way to harness unused energy in a cheap and effective way.  I even believe that it could be done.

let's see...

@groundloop:

You forgot the force of magnets in your math.

Groundloop.

I didn't forget about them.  My video and recent argument is only talking about the lever by itself.  However, if it is to be used as a basic part of a device I think it's important to first make sure we are clear on what's happening in it.  Then, if there IS a way to use the machine to leverage work you'll have a reasonable expectation of what part it is going to do.  No?  AQ does these yes/no statements to prove his argument.  But sometimes one will be vague or incorrect by a small degree but then many other things in his plan are based on it.  See the problem with that?  Like 1.05 x 2.05 = 2.25 yes or no..  it sounds somewhat reasonable but on close examination it is not true.

Your drawing.. using a magnet to compensate for gravity at just the right moment is a very interesting idea and I'd like to see how CLaNZeR's wheel turns out.  I suspect that it will get stuck on one of the magnets.  But we will see.  In YOUR drawing how are the smaller weights getting to the top of the levers?  Are each of the green squares in the bottom drawing levers?

You see, to prove OU you would have to calculate the work in and compare it to the work out - including moving all of those weights to the tops of the lever(s).

[DarkStar_DS9]

Beware, it may be worthless software on June 20th, along with all Newtonian physics!

Oh please... it is worthless already, as I accidently constructed more than one OU "devices" in phun. Just use a chain, and move it around, attach it to a fixed object  and it will sometimes magically start to rock up and down violently and "never" stop. It's a toy, nothing else.

Regards,

Rainer