Roll on the 20th June

[ramset]

hey how bout this every body come out from behind the mask's and moniker's and shake hands and introduce yourself so we know who you are
MAN I AM PROUD OF YOU ARCHER QUINN  HAVE A GREAT LIFE    expect much more from you
MEN that buck tradition always face adversity you faced it not in the Lab   but in front of the world [a first] others would have quit lost their mind or both I cannot imagine how difficult this i's and yet you give the gift FREE to the world FREE    NO STRINGS ATTACHED      AMAZING 
SEEMS you have a GENIOUS for marketing also       get their attention     [good job]    Chet

[Bobbotov]

If free energy means you also have to have a multiple personality disorder I think I will stick with conventional energy.

[exxcomm0n]

   Starting to sound like a political forum or maybe just a plain old shark hunt.

those that cant see it, watch out for the snow ball coming down the hill behind you. Surprise you on just how big its got.

thaelin

@ thaelin

This is why I liken it to the coliseum.

Entertain the masses and keep them from thinking about the rumbling in their bellies.

How's the solenoid?

I see the Mighty Quinn is still confused about everything... I must admit I never saw so delusional person before...
The Flat Earth Society comes to mind, but they're still less cranky...

I thought that at least some of AQ's "cheerleaders" would engage a few of their braincells, but I see now it's hopeless...

AQ & co., you've done so much good for a free-energy.... Thank you! You'll be remembered.

@ spinner

....and you have done ever so much yourself sir. You're a shining example because of these points.

1.) Your kind words of encouragement.
2.) The fine example of FE questing that you've shown in your advice and expenditure of time
3.) The total belief in your position and the painstaking way it's been explained.
4.) The fine tolerance of an idea yet to be proven
5.) The amount and scope of the ideas you've offered

You, as well, shall receive fine honors for the example you've put forth.

@ Special K

<see above>

EDIT
Thank you for the compliment you give me in a future post.

<snipped for brevity>
You'd want something to print, a few pages, with schematics and numbered steps, like the one you read when you assemble your furnitures.
I'm afraid the average builder would be lost on the website. The concept is rather simple, the delivery would give headaches.

On the 20th, a lot of people who simply ignored the device because they thought it would not work, will want to try to build it. But they probably don't want to read tons of pages of text. Maybe someone can help Archer here .... a 4 pages pdf , a blender animation ?
We'd then have easy steps to validate the magnetic drive design.

@ teky

If/when the idea becomes proved, or disproved, I'm sure it could merit it's own thread with the subject:

"Complete plans and schematics for Archers Wheel"

....and if it works, and is independently verified, I'm sure some of us in the FE community will look upon the task of filtering the 60+ pages of opinion for the 3 pages of actual content therein.

This thread seems more of the "cage match" variety. (And I've been heartily entertained by it.)

Sure am glad we have a few here with the necessary humility to simply wait and see before you deliver the goods Archer!

These whining, whinging, moaning, bitching, back-biting, self-touching, 'closet' attention-seeking, fag-o-tronic, know-all, dreary, wet, vapid, watered-down excuses for sphincter leeches haven't got what they came here for!!

Archer 1 -  Jealous fag-o-nauts 0

Roll on the 20th indeed!

@ mango

Me!

You're talking about me, right? 

Isn't that the attitude you'd expect from someone exhibiting all the attributes you catalog above?

"It's all about 'me' ", and I bet that's the driving force behind some of our more insightful contributers.

@ kude

Well said.

Now, can someone please comment on the CONTENT (drawings, plans, roller coaster rip-off, siphon, etc.) I put out there?

Thanks kids!

[JohnGalt_USA]

hey how bout this   every body come out from behind the masks   and   Monikers   and shake hands and introduce yourself so we know who you are   Chet

Good idea RonL

Ummmm......Chet?

Is that the same RonL also known  as RonL2524 that posts on you tube??

I REALLY like his electrodes!

DUDE!!!!!!

[MrKai]

Gentlemen,

You do not need a degree in anything to be an inventor. The inventor is under no obligation to share his findings with anyone. Scientists and engineers use methodology and mathematics to describe observations. Inventors, scientists and engineers then use the observations to create chemical compounds, devices or methods. Share or not share, that is the question.

I don't believe ANYONE is arguing this.

This a forum to share and review ideas. You need to observe what is being proposed to adequate understand it and then review it. An intelligent person might try to duplicate the device, observe the progress of others who try to duplicate the device, or just wait to see the inventor's device released. Observe and then report your findings.

or this.

Again..this is what has been happening, albeit by a more...diverse group than you are used to.

Everyone gave Archer Quinn the benefit of the doubt *in the beginning* because *in the beginning* he deserved it.

Reading these "why don't you give him a chance" posts is like Battered Woman Syndrome. Archer has lied. This is not a dig, but a fact.

He has lied about his credentials...he has lied about his experience...he has butchered good science, good research and good observation practices.

He has attempted on 3 occasions now to "retconn" this entire thing.

He Claimed to have built a working design years ago, then *keeps changing his stuff* when people point out where it is flawed.

Now...why is this bad?

Because he wasn't HONEST in the first place!

Look at exxc0mm in contrast. While exxc0mm labors under the delusion that I am somehow against him and his cause and keeps throwing out false self-denegrating "but I'm 'just' a stoner" comments when responding to me (even tho I was NOT the person that started that at all...sigh) i have 10x more respect for him because he was HONEST ABOUT HIS SIPHON IDEA when he presented it and asked for opinion/assistance/etc. He did NOT present it as a proven idea, with arrogance and flourish. He said "let's research this...anybody in?"

THAT is what I thought THIS place was about.

Well, that and scammy people takin' y'all for a ride.

You know, I read around the site before I posted my first comment. I can *see* why a lot of folks feel Archer should be revered, or at least cut some slack...because he operates in a way that is slightly contrary to what you are used to, in that he didn't seem to be selling anything...obvious.

The thing is tho, as you look at how this saga unfolded, it became apparent that he WAS selling something, tho maybe not for direct cash. He's selling Archer Quinn.

And the first time, the very first time he said one thing, and did something *completely opposite* was a huge red flag.

So now this draws towards its end and what do we see? Yet ANOTHER go at this, and oddly at about the same point as the last go...when enough evil satanic mathematics hellhounds rained down with irrefutable math that challenged his Physics-bursting notions...he changes the design AGAIN.

Which would have been FIIIIIIIINE had we started this out as an R&D project with the world contributing...open source if you will. I've worked on enough Open Source projects to know the benefits and liabilities of that system; the difference is in my experience software architects and engineers seem to follow The Darke Pathe of Reasons and Proofs. What works stays, what doesn't...doesn't. Some people get mad, but at the end of the day the best the team can get out rises to the top.

BUT WE DIDN'T start out like that. I have his original build page...and I didn't save it because I wanted to destroy him.

I saved it because I didn't WANT SOMEONE ELSE TO IN CASE HE WAS ON THE UP AND UP.

So seriously, no one gets to beat up on me because I *stopped believing* as if I never gave a damn. Anyone that wants a copy of the old stuff, I still have it. I just don't want Archer coming after *me* for copyright violation. I've asked him if i could put that stuff back on the internet, he's not answered.

See?

I will be doing the same with this current version; he looks like he's trying to document what he is doing a bit better now.

Thanks for contributing the math and principles to the thread. The arguing and name calling is unessary.It's a big world and there is plenty of things to invent and things to discover. Time is better spent doing and inventing and observing with intelligence than rudely arguing back and forth.

Have a nice and productive day everybody.

I think it would be a great idea to assemble his various drawings and whatnot, if for no other reason, posterity.  tekylife suggested something like this as well. The copyrights are unclear on each individual thing and although he has claimed them PD, he is too...flip-floppy for me personally to rely on that.

If he does give a more specific free license on the info in question tho, I'd be glad to assist in compiling it into a nice pdf booklet *without critical commentary* for those that would like it handy.

-K