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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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exxcomm0n

Cool.

It's coming together and people, whether they believe him a mad man or not, are still paying attention.

"The design has changed though."

Who cares if it changed, if it works.

THAT is the deciding factor.


"The design changes seem pretty familiar to anyone following the thread."

....and he has promised public acknowledgment to all those that supported and contributed to the idea.

I don't care if my name is on there or not (well, not really. But everyone likes a good ego stroke now and again) as long as this gives my daughter clean power.

I don't care if it popped out of Mr. Bush's arse on April Fools day, if it works and is open source, I'll use it as often as I can.

Whether you indemnify attribute the guy w/ god-like genius who could have built this blindfolded with nothing more than toothpicks and bailing wire, or you damn him for being one of the worlds biggest charlatans, if it comes the 20th and it works..........

Mission accomplished.



Now, there have to be more.

It should be a scientific and mathematical certainty if this proves out.

The most important question then is:

What has this taught us so we can use it again?


For me it just means that if people pool ideas, and fight fiercely to defend them and prove/disprove them, everyone (reaching far beyond OU) benefits.
Even if it's only the refinement of 1 idea.

It's up to us, with every successful replication and improvement, to make sure they can.

Now the only thing we're waiting for is the 20th (and what idea will be the next accomplishment). ;)

P.S. Maybe the idea hasn't even been presented yet.
When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.

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Quote from: LarryC on June 17, 2008, 11:46:49 AM
The rod movement technique used at the end of new video 6 appears to be a great solution to getting pass the wall. By having the wall on the inside of the wheel, the retarding torque is greatly reduced and only one of the two magnets used has to be passed. 

Has anyone seen this technique used in previously attempts on other magnetic gravity wheels?

Larry

Very good! This is one of the steps to make a rod shifting more efficient. To move a stator from a periphery of the wheel to an axle. Less countertorque.
Although a rod division into two sections is a step back...
"Ex nihilo nihil"

LarryC

Quote from: LarryC on June 17, 2008, 11:46:49 AM
The rod movement technique used at the end of new video 6 appears to be a great solution to getting pass the wall. By having the wall on the inside of the wheel, the retarding torque is greatly reduced and only one of the two magnets used has to be passed. 

Has anyone seen this technique used in previously attempts on other magnetic gravity wheels?


I made some simple test of the double magnet technique. The _ indicates solid metal bar. Small neo are placed on the end of the bars. The bars are just sliding on a flat surface.

Test 1:
         10MM
____S    S__________N

  When the first bar was moved within 10MM of second bar, the second bar slid 10MM away.

Test 2:
         11MM
____N    S__________N

  When the first bar was moved within 11MM of second bar, the second bar slid in contact of the first bar.

Test 3:
         10MM                   30MM
____S   S___________N          S_____

   When the first bar was moved within 10MM of second bar, the second bar slid 30MM to contact the third bar.

30MM move instead of 11MM move and still facing the same wall.

Excellent Archer!

Larry


exxcomm0n

Quote from: purepower on June 17, 2008, 01:00:33 AM
<snip>
@Exx

Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. There was a lot to read and digest...

It seems the input energy is the raised water tank; without that elevated tank, the device would not function. Is my understanding correct?

Yes......and no.

The upper tank is the energy input, the pool below is the media input.

Experimentation so far has proven the graphical representations (and descriptions thereof) to be more of a Sinclair's siphon.

Don't look at it too hard anymore, but I haven't given up on it yet.

The siphon is gravity and atmosphere effected and right now I'm trying to figure out how to imbalance them.

Quote from: purepower on June 17, 2008, 01:00:33 AM
If so, how do you plan on keeping it filled?

From the "5M" siphon draw tube.

I still need to play a lot with milk jugs and vinyl hose, so just set this on the back burner of your attention, and I'll ask for it to be brought back from dormancy when I can furnish you "mo bettah" data.

Thanks for taking the time to look though!
When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.

purepower

My position still remains that Archer will not live up to what is expected.

If I did, I would not be providing constructive criticism; instead, I would just be another cheerleader.

It seems like no one wants to talk about the wheel until the 20th. It seems more like this is a discussion about Archer, not Archer's device(s). Once people are done stroking Archer's or their own egos, of like to continue to talk about solutions to our energy crisis.

-PurePower


PS Exx- I have a can give you the energy equation for piping systems, it will be of tremendous benefit in figuring out the siphon and could do a tube vid to show the equation is true... Just ask