Roll on the 20th June

[MrKai]

K why not post the whole thing instead of a partial Quote 

Because that would not be Fair Use. That would be copyright violation. Nothing evil here.

[TONS of experimenters run out of funds]? PURE POWER  sorry about the spelling  do you really want me to brag  its not in my character [unlike my last post[2 glass's of wine and I fall apart] I wont do that on open forum   but will PM you if its keeping you awake  Chet
@ he has it running   we all knew if we read his post's he was tight on cash so he built it with things he had around 
BUT IT RUNS !! SPIT AND CHEWING GUM MAY NOT BE THE BEST MATERIALS TO WORK WITH    BUT WHEN YOU HAVE NO MONEY LEFT    THATS WHAT YOU DO     ITS ALIVE!!!!

Chet, look. I said I am not going to comment specifically on what Archer wrote there...because I think it speaks volumes on its own, in the context of this thread and this entire saga.

I will address a specific point you made though about researchers running out of money:

Archer Quinn NEVER presented himself as researching anything. He said he had it solved, years ago. Archer has said many, many things...many things that have turned out to be untrue...for whatever reason. So that wasn't posted for the believers, or the non-believers...the faithful and the debunkers.

It was posted for the undecided, so that they may make a more clear choice as to if they wish to continue, or to begin, funding a research project that was not presented as such, conceived by a person who while arguably well-intentioned (I say arguably because now I'm not so sure about that either with the soft sales pitch I saw) is at minimum misuided and is without a doubt not a person that can be relied upon to keep his word.

I have asked Archer more than once if I could re-insert his original build stuff back onto the internet, because that original stuff helps complete the picture.

I think it would be irresponsible of me as a human being to trade on the hope of other people, even a little bit, based on false premise. What if someone wants to spend their last money in the world to try to make this thing in hopes of beating the power company to shutting off their power? What if this means skipping a meal for them or their kids to make it happen?

Do you really think it is fair to put this out there as a solution for these people? We are ALL HURTING here. The quality of life worldwide is being driven into the ground behind fuel trading and fuel wars...military, industrial, territorial and otherwise.

When Kaitlyn (sp?) posted pages back about why she and her Dad were following this, because of the pointless death (they feel) of her brother, it really made me step up my efforts at watching this guy, this whole thing. Archer took this thing to the mainstream and THOSE are the kinds of people, people looking for hope, that are easiest for confidence trickers to prey on.

Even if the Kaitlyn person wasn't real...there very well may be some lurkers in situations that may be similar, and SOMEONE needs to be the voice of reason not only for "you" people, but "those" people too.

Laypersons don't understand a lot of this...hell the PARTICIPANTS don't even seem to understand, and abhor, the *science* of it, but if you sell someone a dream that is at the end of their rope anyway, it is easy to take advantage of them...financially, mentally and even "spiritually".

So for the sake of posterity and social responsibility, I posted that excerpt. If you don't like what you've read there, Chet, consult the original author.

Don't shoot the messenger.

-K

[Morgenster]

@ he has it running   we all knew if we read his post's he was tight on cash so he built it with things he had around 
BUT IT RUNS !!     ITS ALIVE!!!!

That would be hearsay. I'll wait for evidence.

[ramset]

MR KAI   ANY contribution to further the understanding  is good   ARCHER Bounced around to much for his budjet  But while bouncing threw out A LOT of information  Can he break the wall?  does he?  LOOK at all the talent that is here  in the BIG picture this is done[breaking the wall]  shown FREE to the World
THANKYOU ARCHER QUINN   Chet
PS  When ARCHER shows a vid  of a tin clock   refrig mags  close pins  round tubes in square holes   doing anything close to spinning on its own [shlepping slowly around on its own power]  it will be a first   and if you think thats a failure
you are wrong   CHET

[MrKai]

MR KAI   ANY contribution to further the understanding  is good

Chet...why do you say things like this? Removing BAD DATA from GOOD DATA is a HUGE contribution towards understanding...but yet you seem to hate anyone or any process designed to do just that.

ARCHER Bounced around to much for his budjet  But while bouncing threw out A LOT of information  Can he break the wall?  does he?

The Video evidence for this is highly debatable as discussed previously.

  LOOK at all the talent that is here  in the BIG picture this is done[breaking the wall]  shown FREE to the World
THANKYOU ARCHER QUINN   Chet

Again Chet, you see what you wish to see. It doesn't make it any more true, repeatable or actually useful.

In the BIG picture, nothing new has happened here outside of a brighter spotlight being shone upon the fringe...and your good side is NOT the one facing the camera

-K

[ramset]

HATE is a big word   When ARCHER shows a vid  of a tin clock   refrig mags  close pins  round tubes in square holes   doing anything close to spinning on its own [shlepping slowly around on its own power]  it will be a first   and if you think thats a failure
you are wrong   CHET PS THE SPOTLIGHT ON THE FRINGE   IS COMING FROM SAUDI ARABIA    THANKYOU PRINCES OF OIL YOU HAVE BECOME A GREAT INSPIRATION