Roll on the 20th June

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so many nice Folks showing up for the Party  have you tried the coolaid yet?   Chet

[dirt diggler]

Archer is updating his site now.


Ciao,   Dirt

[purepower]

@Mark69 (and ALL)

You are fairly new an dont expect you to know my full history with the device/forum.

I was once a part of Archer's personal group and worked with him personally. At one point, I was even considerred his "Newtonian Advisor." This was until I asked him details on the lever he could not explain and kicked me out when I questioned too hard.

As for this site, I have always been 100% supportive of the builders. I have openly discussed ideas and even thrown out a few of my own (bismuth and rearrangement).

Why most people think I am against the device/Archer is because I mostly point out why things won't work or problems they may have.

It is pointless so tell them the positives of an idea. They obviously understand why it could/should work, otherwise they wouldn't throw the idea out there!

What is more important and useful is to be told the negatives. By understanding the negatives and problems, you can devise a solution. If the problems remain unnamed, you will encounter unexpected errors in the build. I think we all can agree to that...

Only problem is this makes me seem like an opponent. I have always made myself to be a devils advocate (ALWAYS, and not just after if/when Archur is successful), but most people only see the "devil" and not the "advocate."

I have contributed my personal ideas as mentioned before. I dont do it often because I usually find faults as I think them through and chose not to post them knowing they ate flawed.

I said it before, will be here long after the 20th providing engineering aid and assistance as I always have been.

-PurePower

PS I am extremly open-minded and would support an anomaly, given it has warrent. There are many things man doesnt understand or misunderstands. But I won't dismiss all prior logic and understanding simply because Archer succeseds. I would first try to analyze it using Newtonian mechanics, and if it can't be done I would considder it an anomaly. Also, a functioning device would not instantly negate thermodynamics because there is input energy: gravity and magnetism. We certainly do not consider motors with input energy violations of thermo laws, do we?

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video 4 is up on youtube

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Chillun Puh-leeeeeeeeez! (Children, please!)

Could we ALL (I'm as guilty as any other) just wait and see?

I'm willing to give him longer than today, but if it were a bet I'd have to tell him to pay up.

He made the rules, we'll see if he can deliver.

EVEN IF HE CAN'T, we are still talking, we are still sharing ideas, we are still learning to respect one another (we'll it's the slowest of the processes), and we still have a common goal.

Those "Newtonians" probably took offense because someone called them an idiot (but it kept them around).

Those Archerians (I like it better that way), well some of them (again, myself included), may not have degrees and the purest understanding of Newtonian Physics, but we're willing to give another a chance to prove what he has promised.

Even IF this was the biggest con in FE history (Which is tough since there isn't money involved), there have been some good ideas, a few minor discoveries, a few agreements of understanding, and more than a few laughs.

If you don't think those, in and of themselves, are worth anything I feel very sad for you.

So, if it (he) bombs and can't deliver, a couple of days of Newt's gloating and then a dead thread?


Screw that.


There are thinking people here (ALL types of intelligences).

We have builders, thinkers, dreamers, schemers (website idea ), scholars, and dopers (All right, you probably don't need the last one as a contributing member).

If a think tank like that can't make any of the ideas work, then the world ISN'T ready for any of them because we obviously can't understand them yet and aren't intelligent, intuitive, or investigative enough to.

We all believe that false by being here.

Let's (because of Archer, or in spite of him) prove it instead of just thinking/believing in it.

A machine doesn't change the world.

The adaptation of it to the world, or the world to it, DOES.

We've got a lot of hard work ahead of us in either case,

We better start planning, eh? (each to their own belief).

Kosher?