Roll on the 20th June

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Archer
Give yourself a break, who cares what other people say. Come back in a few weeks. Ask for small donations to buy proper materials. (A small donation could be seen as entertainment value) You may be surprised that to carry on with no pressure may chance the outcome.

[Newtonian God]

You Decide

Hang in there Archer, it's almost wabbit season!

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Has it been proven by the scientific community God exist?
No? Sorry Newtonian God, you don?t exist

[purepower]

@ PureP

It was mostly aimed @ 1&0s and Special K, but I'll be happy to.

If/when we have all this power continuously being generated, where are we to put it?

Lead/acid is expensive, heavy, dirty, inefficient, slow to charge, has a limited deep cycling, and BIG.

Why not (as a shunt of this topic, or not) look into better batteries?

Lighter, better cycling, denser charge amount, and cheaper.

We have some, but not all.

If you ask the man on the street what the major killer of EVs is, they usually answer "Weight" (and they're right).

It's another backburner thingy for you, let's play this one out.

Whaddaya say?

Ahh, actually something Ive thought/researched extensively. May be putting the cart before the horse, but you always need to see where you are going in order to get there...

Okay, there are a few different levels of power to be considered. Ill start small, and work up...

For a small device, Ive considered small, portable power. Someone threw out the idea of a camping light, and while the idea is novel, why limit yourself to lighting? I would build it into one small unit with an AC output. That way it could be used for portable lighting, charging of electronic devices, powering desalinization devices and water pumps in third-world countries, powering heaters for research facilities in the poles... the possibilities are endless!

For a medium size device, I would scale it to power a home or car (and yes, the two consume about the same amount of energy, varying from person to person). For the car, I would design it a number of ways. The first (and probably easiest) would be to have the device stop in a "safe mode" so the magnets would not degauss, bearings fail due to constant run time. The other possibility is to have it always run, and when you are home have it tie into your home's electrical system to supply some/all of your needs to cutback/eliminate your electric bill. A cost-benefit analysis would need to be done to see if it is worth the additional wear and tare.

For the medium size home unit, I would design it to intentionally exceed your home needs and tie it into the grid. In this case, any additional energy generated is sold to the electric company so you will actually make money in the long run. This is done with current systems, such as solar. This way, the grid acts like a battery when the panels are producing more than you need; sell it when you have extra, buy it back when you need more. The catch is the electric company buys it for less than they sell it, so you still end up losing. Its like having a battery you have to pay to use, but never need to replace. It ends up being about the same in the long run, but if you are always selling, no disadvantage...

For a large unit, tie it directly to grid. There will be a demand for grid power for a long time after and FE device makes it to market, simply due to human nature. People are creatures of habit, and breaking any habit is difficult. You would be surprised to see how many people would rather have to pay a small amount for electricity continuously from a FE power plant, as opposed to going through the 'headache' of buying the device, setting up the generator/inverter, tying it into your home, operation and maintenances, etc. Most would be happy to come home and flip the switch just as they always have but still save substantially, as opposed to owning/running their own.

Maybe (way) down the line we would eliminate the need for the grid. Only way I see this happening is if homes are sold "FE-equipped" (did I just start a future home marketing term?).

As batteries get better, they may be our future. "Super capacitors" seem to be much more promising in my opinion for two major reasons: they dont suffer "memory" effects and they can be charge almost instantly. I say "almost" because you put too many amps through any wire/device and you can fry them (unless we are talking superconductors, but they arent ready for the market; then again, neither is FE, maybe they will hit the market the same time?). Only downside with super-caps is they like to discharge as fast as they can charge;
controlling the electron flow is difficult. Also, if a super-cap car were to get into an accident, you would be pressed to find a firefighter willing to take a risk of touching the car because to the HIGH risk of being electrocuted to death.

Another storage possibility is something already in use: compressed air. While this may throw a few people off, it really makes sense once you look into the details. First the negatives. Over-compression of the containers is the only safety hazard, but we have safety valves for that. Other negative is inflation rate limits. If you try to inflate the vessel to fast, the air will heat up and efficiency of compression will greatly decrease. There are a couple ways around this, such as multistage compression. Even still, the energy storage rates of compressed air is greater than the energy storage rates of a battery (ie you can store more energy faster in a vessel than in a battery). They are also much cheaper and easier to maintain that batteries. Lighter too. Plus there is no toxic chemical waste. One other problem is efficiency. Compression is about 85%, expansion is about 85%, about 72% efficient overall (you get back 72% of the energy you put in) in the BEST case scenario. There is always a trade off, and this is one of the major reasons we dont see compressed air more in the market. But if our input energy is FREE, who cares if we only get 72% back?

Compressed air is used much in industry to power hand tools, assembly lines, conveyor belts, etc. There, it makes sense to have one central compressor unit and have power delivered pneumatically as opposed to running hundreds of electric motors simultaneously. Another surprising area this is used is for large energy storage needs. As ironic as it may seem, old oil wells are being sealed off and fitted with compressors and turbines. Any excess energy and the compressors are kicked on, turning the well into a huge vessel. When the demand is high, the air is released through the turbines, giving the energy back. Small city cars in Europe are adopting the use of compressed air as well.

-PurePower

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Ok, it''s the 20th (a nice warm sunny day here). Start of a new world, eh?

Archer, a happy birthday to you! Forget about the wheels, magnets and swords, enjoy the day with your family/friends!

Now, watch out what will you do next. If you show us a video of a 'working wheel', then it will be faked... I suggest you admitt the failure, appologise for all the nasty words, and continue to work on your ideas... This way, you may get a good contribution from others...
Cheers!