Roll on the 20th June

[MrKai]

Like I said..you have no idea how much effort that took. I actually had to consult some rap lyrics for the flow, and couldn't "keep in character"...it was a bit of a failure...but Dave, consider this:

That kind of over-the-top, completely irrational and unmeasured response is why many of use started giving Archer's claims and methods MUCH closer scrutiny. As I have mentioned many times, I have the "blue" version of his site cached locally, as well as his slides and stuff.

I can consult the historical evidence and see the patterns. Hell, PurePower claims he was Archer's physics go-to guy and was a participant on the private soapz discussion.

Look at my very first post. It was very supportive, but suggesting that he ratchet down the fire and brimstone because it was non-condusive, offputting and he had probably scared away the most dangerous anyway...to go on and show us what was to be seen.

Then you know, more Insane Clown Flipping...very manic as someone else *observed* (who was then of course, castigating for commenting on what could be clearly seen..as opposed to what was imagined. Funny that)...

So as time rolled on, I was like look guys, something isn't right here...andit became an attackfest. it appears that calmly repeating the observables, the FACTS is anathema to some here...which then trigger a very strange set of reactions...all suprisingly similar to tactics of "the Man":

1. Obfuscation
2. Vilification of alternate points of view. In this instance, alternate meaning "Contrary to FE/OUness"
3. Personification of arguments
4. Calls for censure of opposing, or merely critical thought

I apologize for disturbing you so, Dave, with the aforementioned vitriol.

I was merely playing to the audience in an attempt to be understood; rationality and civility seem a giant fail here so I atttempted to go Roman, as it were.

And I still stand by what I said; my false heat will be NOTHING compared to how bad it is gonna get, and that helps no one. After a day or so, it should cool down. I like to prevent as opposed to mitigate and it just seemed to me to be a reasonable (uh-oh...there's that "fag talk we discussed before"*) pre-emptive way to avoiding all out  WordWar here.

-K

*this paraphrases a line from a great movie many people haven't seen but should have: Mike Judge's 'Idiocracy'.

@ MrKai

Oh my!  I first caught glimpse of your post by going to the bottom of the page and then scrolling up.  At first I thought it was another of Archer's rants, and then I saw it was you.

You should be ashamed.  I feel like less of a human being having read your post.

The above has nothing to do with my thoughts on the validity of Archer's claims or the view of the skeptics.  It's just wrong, no matter the context.

-Dave

[shakman]

WOW - I only just read Mr. Kai's rant.
I now find it neccessary to once again repeat
"Let's keep it constructive people!!!"

[MrGrynch]

@MrKai,

Thank you for coming back to civility.

I think there are many sensible people here, who, like me, are simply watching the events unfold, and choose not to get caught up in the vampiric back and forth between the two extremes.  You will never interject reason or moderation among such polarized belief systems.

I believe what Archer claims is POSSIBLE, but question that Archer has actually done it.  I disagree that this violates any laws.  That the outcome would appear to, if successful, is representative of a flaw in our 'laws'.  Nature cares not for our laws.  It is for us to be humble in the face of nature.

Best wishes as I return to lurking,
-Dave

[MrKai]

This was your quote you foul mouthed peon I took nothing out of context.

Here...

Let me help you. We'll see who is who and what is what based on your response to this:

I think Harti should lock this thread...today.

The personal, extremely nasty nature of the attacks against other posters now is getting heated, and I fear as the 20th rolls on in parts of the world not extremely South and East, it will get much, MUCH worse.

Hell, I can't even get someone to stop "calling me out of my name" after asking twice, nicely. I imagine as the reality of this...event...sets in on all sides the outpouring of negativity is going to reach a fevered pitch real soon.

Hell, all of the US of A isn't really even up yet...and if you think an angry Aussie is something to deal with, just WAIT until some PO'd 'Merkins get some coffee and sugar in them.

-K

Because of the traffic, this message was double-posted and there is no way to remove a double post, so i simply edited it to the one liner...immediately after the original post.

See? Its right there. The fact that you obviously saw this (you referenced my comment about being "called out of my name") but then in your follow-up claim you were responding to the one-liner...this shows a bit of (here is that nasty word I use again) a disingenuous response. You claimed that your post, after I had something to say about it, was in response to a different one altogether.

Be honest. That's all I ask...of anyone

I cheerfully await your reply.

-K

Your Fascist rhetoric and foul mouth cussing is proof positive that the vaccinations you had as a baby are working overtime. It's the gift that keeps on giving.

I just want a better world to live and in the good folks who come on this forum and share ideas should be applauded not censored. If you can's stand the heat get out of the kitchen.

No need to apologize I forgive you.

Will

P.S.  Almost time for your flu shot isn't it .... Get your Formaldehyde, Aluminum, Thimerosal and Aspartame and you won't be sick Noooooooo More !    

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BATMAN HI ALL

Can any one here provid a website (not U-TUBE) SO I CAN POST VIDOES UP FOR ALL TO SEE? ( File sizes from 50k to 5mb )

Batman :

What kind of videos do you want to post .. and why is Utube not good enough for you ?
i have a high speed server ..
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